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Thread: a little help with crafting stations
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CorinDWR
Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:47 am
#1
I am just about to get the last components ready.
But I wonder if anyone has any experience with the quality of them.
With the resources my DE and meself used I have the following stats on components.
Components for Micro Sensor Suites
Control Unit - quality 96%
Energy Distributor - quality 96%
Excpect the same stats on my Electronics GP Modules.
With this I expect 95% result on my Micro Sensor Suite.
Droid Storage Modules - quality 95%
Control Unit - once again 96%
The Copper I will use for the station itself has conductivity 998 on a few and 989 on a lot.
Using a calculator I should get 44+ on the best copper stations and 43+ on the others. But I dont know if my math is right, could someone help me out with this.
Message Edited by CorinDWR on 09-28-2004 05:43 PM
Domandred
Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:04 am
#2
Using 96+ sub-components on my Micro Sensor Suites I only ended up with 83 to 86% MSS's (can't remember the final for sure) due to the lower CD/OQ on the only steel I could find. Best Steel I could get was 900+ OQ but only around 3 or 400ish CD I think it was.
Everything else being 96+ yielded a +41.22 crafting station. If you can get the MSS'sto 95% as high as you can your calculatations should be okay. I don't know the final cause I don't calculate I just throw it all into a bucket and see what comes out. In my personal practice though the steel I needed wasn't good enough causing the low MSS's so only hit 41.22. Looking for new steel.
Pawlin
Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:32 am
#3
Agreed, your MSS will probably come out around 80-85%. The limiting factor is usually the conductivity for the steel in the MSS final combine.
With those numbers you're probably looking at 40-42 range for the final station.
CorinDWR
Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:42 am
#4
thanks for advice folks, well 40-42 aint too bad either, too bad there hasnt been a single steel in shift on Chimeara with 400+ Conductivity
LadyGrey
Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:33 pm
#5
The percentages of the components in the MSS are not averaged. You must take theproduct of the percentages. So if they are all 96%, then they will contribute .96 * .96 * .96 = 88%, so hopefully your resources are bringing up the percentage a little bit.
CorinDWR
Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:12 pm
#6
well it might, just figured out the steel for the MSS has a conductivity of 603 which i didnt know i had 
so it might get better.
so it might get better.also i will try with some of the new oq 996 polymer and 1000 ore i have on some of the components. it might get better.
CorinDWR
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:42 pm
#7
I mixed and matched a little and this is what I used:
All resource names are Chimaera spawns in case you wonder what I am talking about.
Control Units:Experimented to 98%
Metal: Quadian Copper: QQ: 978
Polymer: Icedoh: OQ: 998
Ore: Peafie: OQ 1000
Copper: Quadian Copper: OQ 978
Inert Gas: Eoswo: OQ 961
Polymer: Icedoh: OQ 998
Electronics GP Modules: Experimented to 98%
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978
Polymer: Icedoh: OQ 998
Ore: Peafie OQ 1000
Copper: Quadian Copper: OQ 978
Inert Gas: Eoswo: OQ 961
Energy Distibutors: Experimented to 97%
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978
Inert Gas: Eoswo: OQ 961
Steel: Caipav: OQ 959
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978
Ore: Peafie OQ 1000
Micro Sensor Suites: Experimented to 89%
Steel: Caipav: OQ 959 Con:603
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978 Con: 932
Ore: Peafio: OQ: 1000
Inert Gas: Eoswo OQ: 961
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978 Con: 932
Droid Storage Modules: Experimented to 95%
My DE used Quadian copper, OQ 978 Con: 932
Crafting Station: Experimented to 99%
Metal: Allaate Copper: Con: 994
Mineral: Allaate Copper: Con: 994
The end result was a 42.66 station, and with these resources I am beginning to wonder how people on my server made 44.19 stations. The resources I used are amongst the very best Chimeara has seen.
Anyways, quite pleased with the experiment, and I look forward to getting these babies out for sale. Price check? 
Message Edited by CorinDWR on 09-28-2004 05:52 PM
Pawlin
Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:30 pm
#8
CorinDWR wrote:
...I am beginning to wonder how people on my server made 44.19 stations. The resources I used are amongst the very best Chimeara has seen.
...
They may have resources from 13 months ago that spawned before you might have started the game. Chimarea has had a copper with OQ 985, aninert gas OQ 999, and a steel with OQ 1000. Those materials might give them 0.2 - 0.5 increase.
They may have used DSC's that were the old style using only OQ and experimenting with artisan points. Since they were only based on OQ stats, it was easier to get 99%. If they had 99% then they might get 0.4 - 0.6 more than your 95%'s.
Or they may have some schematics that were made during "temporary Tuesday" the one day when experimentation rules changed and it was possible to get 100% results on schematics. Thats the only way I got up to 44.0 myself. If they did that then they could get 45.0 with your materials easily.
Or it could be a combination of the above factors.
By_Tor
Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:15 am
#9
On final assembly you can use junk ore in the mineral slot to make your high cond copper last longer. Since ore does not have cond the stat gets ignored and you will get the same result.
Domandred
Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:49 pm
#10
Micro Sensor Suites: Experimented to 89%
Steel: Caipav: OQ 959 Con:603
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978 Con: 932
Ore: Peafio: OQ: 1000
Inert Gas: Eoswo OQ: 961
Metal: Quadian Copper: OQ 978 Con: 932
This is the only place I can see that you might be able to easily improve. Copper get that CD up a few more notches. On Kauri we recently had a 97x OQ and 97x CD. Can't remember the stats for sure but I have a bunch of it saved. Steel on the other hand is an issue. I believe the CD cap for steel is 650, though that will only give you maybe 1 point percent. The combination of the two however might just push your MSS up over the 90% mark and probably into 93%. That's where your + points are for your crafting station. +1 more for each MSS (somewhere in the 90 to 100% range not sure where the extra point hits) will put you at 44.66 from your current 42.66. Remember that MSS's give +points on final and not +%. You can do a 99% combine on the station with no-subcompents but your final product will be at 14.95ish without the +points for the subcomponents.
Oh yea like the above poster said use junk ore for the final combine to save your copper. Ore has no CD so it only calculates the OQ. You'll have the same results.
Message Edited by Domandred on 09-29-2004 03:51 PM
Pawlin
Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:14 pm
#11
I really don't think a little better copper will add a full 2.0 to the rating. Better copper would certainly increase it but not that much.
Might get you up to 43.x range but up to 44.x level.
My copper is OQ 980 / CD 969 and I'm only hitting 43.6. My other materials are all 980-1000 range except the steel which is OQ 988 / CD 571.
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