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Thread: BER 13's

Leahmister
Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:42 pm
#1

Is the ore unit still the only factory in making high BER Mineral Harvys?



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oneinfinity
Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:35 pm
#2

that is to say, that the final assembly is experimented on now as well as the ore mining unit, and thus the UT 50% SR 25% and HR 25% of the materials is important.
Perpetual_Dark
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:44 pm
#3

Yes, the experimental effectiveness needs to get above 88% to acheive 13.. and the ore mining unit needs to get above 90%.. The lowestmetal I have tried and succeded for a 13 is about 920's in the 3 attributes (UT, HR, SR) I use 950+ oq chem and no probs.. for the schems that use ore in the final assy, I used some with a 600ish SR, and 900+ UT and HR and barely made it to 13..





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MadACR
Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:43 pm
#4

actually 83% is the start of BER 13. Found that out with a few ammazing successes.



Also I am speculating that a BER 14 is possible, has anyone gotten their experimentation up past 90% to check this?



Illuminatrix
Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:28 am
#5

So I'm looking at a BER12 right now then?

I can't remember the percentage, I believe it was 78%. The BER on the Ore Mining Unit is 6... Am I to assume that double the OMU's BER equals what I can expect on the final assembly?








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MonGiovanni
Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:41 am
#6

The quality of the resources (ore/steel/chem) used in the final deed affect the ideal extraction rate also.



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Leahmister
Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:45 am
#7

well pleh.... hehe thx



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AndonSage2
Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:25 am
#8

>> actually 83% is the start of BER 13. Found that out with a few ammazing successes. <<


Actually, 77/78 is the start of BER 13. I'm using 98% experimented ore mining units, along with some amazing steel and ore that spawned on the Chilastra server recently. Sometimes I will get a BER 13 at 77%, sometimes I have to take it to 78%+ (iow, one more experimentation point). This is the same situation with the other types ofharvesters using 97% fluidic and harvesting components.


>> Also I am speculating that a BER 14 is possible, has anyone gotten their experimentation up past 90% to check this? <<


The first heavy mineral I made I took up to 91%, and it was still BER 13. Now I just getthem to 77/78 for BER 13and then experiment up the storage.


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Numen
Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:48 am
#9

From reading this post it seems that the rate on the ore mining unit is not a round number that it is 6.something. I had some 86ish ore mining units last night. Got my heavy chem up to 85% and it was still at Rate 12.



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eznihm
Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:42 am
#10

I was making 13s with 97% ore mining units and steel in the high800s-mid 900s chem about 950.. would hit 13 when I got past 80.

RebArch
Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:46 am
#11

Between skill tapes and HQ resources I've gotten to 94%....still BER 13 at that point.



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eznihm
Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:57 am
#12

Whoa, good to know. I bet 14s are at 97 and 15s at 100. Has anyone gone above 94?
PhazeDistortion
Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:46 am
#13

From what I have seen, for some strange reason hopper size seems to be having an effect as well. I havent played with this much, as I made a schem for my heavies, but I did notice it when making my schems. Ive also seen at least one post here where someone had experimented the effectiveness up so that it was showing BER 13, but then got a crit failure when experimenting hopper size, and that dropped him back to 12.



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