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Thread: BER question for n00b architect

Draaco111
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:34 pm
#1

if my ore mining unit BER is only 5 does that mean i that is all the BER im gonna get for my heavy mineral mining installation?



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Pawlin
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:52 pm
#2

With a BER 5 ore mining unit you'll probably be limited to BER 10 or 11 for the heavy miner.


FOr the ore mining unit you want to experiment it as high as possible up into the 90-99% range. The max is BER 6 but that isn't enough to assure you'll max out the BER on the harvester itself.






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Draaco111
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:37 pm
#3

any suggestions on getting it to 6?



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Pawlin
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:49 pm
#4






Draaco111 wrote:

any suggestions on getting it to 6?






Don't focus on the BER rating. Look at the experimentation %.


You want to use good steel with HR, SR and UT all as high as possible. Preferably something in the 950-999 range. The highest the better.


Your experimentation will need to be all great success / amazing success to max the %.


Its also best to be a master or you might not hit the max or at least might take a lot of tries to get it.






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Kaomond
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:40 am
#5






Pawlin wrote:





Draaco111 wrote:

any suggestions on getting it to 6?






Don't focus on the BER rating. Look at the experimentation %.


You want to use good steel with HR, SR and UT all as high as possible. Preferably something in the 950-999 range. The highest the better.


Your experimentation will need to be all great success / amazing success to max the %.


Its also best to be a master or you might not hit the max or at least might take a lot of tries to get it.







Made my first ever heavythe othernight and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?





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Pawlin
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:57 am
#6








Kaomond wrote:

...


Made my first ever heavythe othernight and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?






Was it a fusion generator? If you use good materials and OMU those pop out as BER14 but you can't experiment them.







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Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

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Kaomond
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:51 pm
#7






Pawlin wrote:








Kaomond wrote:

...


Made my first ever heavythe othernight and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?




it was a mineral harvey

Was it a fusion generator? If you use good materials and OMU those pop out as BER14 but you can't experiment them.














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LoboCA
Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:06 pm
#8



Kaomond wrote:


Pawlin wrote:


Kaomond wrote:

...

Made my first ever heavy the other night and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?


it was a mineral harvey
Was it a fusion generator? If you use good materials and OMU those pop out as BER14 but you can't experiment them.








Can you go back and check again? Mineral harvestors SHOULD max out at BER 13. Fusion Generators are the only harvs that SHOULD be able to hit 14.

If it was a mineral, can you post the stats of the resources you used, and the final BER and hopper size?

Thanks!




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havenite
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:30 pm
#9



Draaco111 wrote:
any suggestions on getting it to 6?





Use the best metals with high UT,SR,HR(one of these 3 of the top of my head) and inert gas with high OQ and then experiment to 90+ %

best tip is too look out for steel or any metal with high UT,SR,HR with as high as 9xx combo,usefull for making components and crafting harvestors
and to harvest the SW siliclastic ore for wall making
A-higher % spawns
B-spawn tend to last longer

use swgcraft.com to check the current spawns on galaxy for resources



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webboy
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:04 pm
#10






LoboCA wrote:





Kaomond wrote:





Pawlin wrote:








Kaomond wrote:

...


Made my first ever heavy the other night and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?




it was a mineral harvey

Was it a fusion generator? If you use good materials and OMU those pop out as BER14 but you can't experiment them.

















Can you go back and check again? Mineral harvestors SHOULD max out at BER 13. Fusion Generators are the only harvs that SHOULD be able to hit 14.

If it was a mineral, can you post the stats of the resources you used, and the final BER and hopper size?

Thanks!




I know this was the case for a long time (I've been master arch for close to a year now) BUT last week I did a schem of fusions. The BER was only 13! And I couldn't experiment on it (of course). I was so used to the BER14 that i was shocked! Can anyone else confirm this? I'm thinking there was another silent nerf put in...and before I get all the questions - yes I used top components (the same ones I always used to get the BER14) and I am a 12-point arch. (shrug)







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Pawlin
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:47 pm
#11







webboy wrote:


I know this was the case for a long time (I've been master arch for close to a year now) BUT last week I did a schem of fusions. The BER was only 13! And I couldn't experiment on it (of course). I was so used to the BER14 that i was shocked! Can anyone else confirm this? I'm thinking there was another silent nerf put in...and before I get all the questions - yes I used top components (the same ones I always used to get the BER14) and I am a 12-point arch. (shrug)





Somethings probably changed in your materials or OMU experimentation. Make sure your OMU is experimented up to 95-99% and that your materials are as high quality as possible. If you're using good materials then use better.


If it had been broken then thered be more than one person complaining.






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Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

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Pawlin
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:51 pm
#12

Or... it could just be the current experimentation display bug. Did you check the BER on the finished deed ?






Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Kaomond
Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:12 am
#13






LoboCA wrote:





Kaomond wrote:





Pawlin wrote:








Kaomond wrote:

...


Made my first ever heavy the other night and was well shocked, the components i used weren't all that great and the resources were just random stuff i had, but when i got to the experimentation stage it was BER14 before experimentation, has something changed to make it easier to hit the high BER ratings?




it was a mineral harvey

Was it a fusion generator? If you use good materials and OMU those pop out as BER14 but you can't experiment them.

















Can you go back and check again? Mineral harvestors SHOULD max out at BER 13. Fusion Generators are the only harvs that SHOULD be able to hit 14.

If it was a mineral, can you post the stats of the resources you used, and the final BER and hopper size?

Thanks!



oops yeah you're right was a fusion, i made a whole batch of minerals that night and went to place them to realise i didnt have enough fusions out so made one of them on the spot with my droid, came out ber14 before exp




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