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Thread: 12 point ?'s

Sturmruger
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:34 pm
#1

Can someone please explain the difference between, structural, complexity and artisan experimentation tapes.


I'm asking because I'm wondering how many suits one needs to be equiped to craft everything well.


TY for your time.




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Pawlin
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:02 pm
#2

Structure points are covered in the FAQ. In short structure experimentation is really only good for larger hopper size. Structure comlexity is useless. Artisan points don't help architect stuff.






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Sturmruger
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:44 pm
#3

wow thx for info and wow thats alot of bugged tapes






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Pawlin
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:51 pm
#4

Only the structure complexity is actually bugged. Structure experimentation works fine but just doesn't do much. Artisan is useful for other things (artisan food and powerups) but just not useful for architects.






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WNxhostileapostle
Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:41 am
#5

wondering same thing myself



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Harrans
Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:57 pm
#6

Isn't Structure Experimentaion used to bump the Extraction rate of harvestors also. I mean you get 2 more points to spend them how you like?



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Elyssa
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:22 pm
#7

Yes, it is but it's fairly easy to hit max BER with only 10 points so those extra points really do nothing but increase hopper size.



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Pawlin
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:34 pm
#8






Harrans wrote:

Isn't Structure Experimentaion used to bump the Extraction rate of harvestors also. I mean you get 2 more points to spend them how you like?






The points are used on the extraction rate yes. But with the standard 10 points of a master you can easily max out extraction rate when using good materials with points to spare. So more points above 10 will really 7/1just end up in the hopper size. 12 points won't give you a better BER than what you can get with 10 points.




Once in a great while you can use extra points to recover from a bad experimentation result and maybe salvage a harv to get max BER that would have otherwise been sub standard. So there is that added benefit too. But that happens vary rarely.





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Harrans
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:52 pm
#9


I just spent7 mil getting plus 20 experimentation haha looks like I was jipped!





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Kaque
Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:08 am
#10






Harrans wrote:


I just spent7 mil getting plus 20 experimentation haha looks like I was jipped!







That sounds reasonable. Remember the extra points can pay off if you have a crit fail. You might be able to recover a heavy mineral to ber 11 or ber 12 which at least will sell for 20k on the bizaar. Not a total loss then, probably pay for the materials.



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Pawlin
Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:52 am
#11

The points will still be expensive because they are rare and people still want them. They're a status symbol too.


Prices vary a lot server to server as well.




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Okitaa
Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:45 am
#12

You say its easy to get BER13 with good materials?


I use very good materials, and all subcomponets maxed, and I don't always get BER13s


I'm an 11 pt architect and a Mon Cal....


Am I just that crummy or what?




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Pawlin
Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:55 pm
#13

Your materials probably aren't consistently good enough. Or your'e not experimeinting the mining part high enough.


Your materials should be > 900 for HR, SR, UT. Its perferable to have 950-999 level stuff.

Make sure to use lub oil for your harvesters mining parts and final combines.


Experiment the mining part up to 95-99% range.

Experiment the harvester final combine as high as possible. If the experimentation on the mining part and your extraction for the final combine are > 176% combined then you'll max BER.






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