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Thread: Structure Experimentation +25 tapes

Erillion
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:33 am
#1

Greetings fellow architects,


I know that quite a few of you have bought structure experimentation and structure assembly tapes. Sometimes amounting to the allowed +25 value.


Is it worth it ? How much did you pay ? What kind of tapes did you get (type and value) ?


I can easily hit BER 10, 13 and 14. Is increasing hopper size worth putting down millions for those tapes ? Are structure assembly tapes necessary at all when architects cannot fail assemblies ?


Or does +25 allow you to make BETTER efficiency items ? (Heard a rumour of BER 14 heavies and BER 15 fusions ... NOT the old pre-patch ones, but of recent manufacture ... but never seen one).


Share with us some of your experiences !


Have fun


Novarider Tam
PadreBook
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:19 am
#2

I'm hoping to give a full analysis soon as possible. I have +25 experimentation, assembly, and complexity.

Padre
Burzumgash
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:34 am
#3

I have tested +25 in Structure Experimentation with a friend, and it does not allow for BER14 Heavies and BER15 Fusions.


You max out on the experimentation before you hit these numbers.


You do get significantly bigger hopper sizes whioch you can use as a marketing tool.


I see it as one way of spending my credits, when you hit a certain amount there is not really much left to buy except for rare items, good armor and these tapes.





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PadreBook
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:24 am
#4

What about assembly tapes it seems that +25 could possibly help fusions.

Padre
Pawlin
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:48 am
#5






Burzumgash wrote:

I have tested +25 in Structure Experimentation with a friend, and it does not allow for BER14 Heavies and BER15 Fusions.


You max out on the experimentation before you hit these numbers.


You do get significantly bigger hopper sizes whioch you can use as a marketing tool.








Huan, did you ever test the difference between : no tape & high quality materials versus +25 tape and slightly lower quality materials? This is what I'm hoping for that a tape will allow you a bit more leaway with the quality of your materials so that you don't have to depend on having the 950+ average great quality level of stuff and can throw in more of the 900+ average good stuff.





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Burzumgash
Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:19 am
#6

I havent gotten any hard numbers on that yet but I am on it.


Early experimenrts show that you have some margin on the Ore, I used ore that had not a single 900+ value and still got to ber10.


Steel doesn't give you much of a choice you need to use the best you have as far as I have seen.


If you don't do so, all the experimentation points in the world dont seem to help as you max out on experimentation options before having used all points.


But I am working on getting better numbers on that.





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Erillion
Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:33 am
#7

Greetings fellow architects,


what hopper sizes do you get ?


I get (no tapes, city with research center bonus):


BER 10 ... 58375


BER 14 ... 140375


BER 13 ... cant remember exactly ... 117kish ?


Bye


Novarider

PadreBook
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:54 am
#8

Without tapes (in a research city) I've gotten ber10's with over 60k hoppers and ber13's with 120k hoppers, fusions ber14's with 140k+. Normally they fall within that range you listed. I only make harvs off of schematics so I make a good schem and run it. Fusions of course I make by hand.

Padre
Erillion
Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:49 pm
#9

Just made 30 fusions via factory ... and can feed more in when walls are ready again ..


its worth it as some bulk sale customers appreciate identical hopper sizes for their harvesters ... makes harvester management easier.


--


To conclude my thread ... I get the feeling that tapes are not REALLY worth the price people pay for it (8-13 mill for +25 according to some research I have done). I think I will use the money for other purposes.


Like paying other low level architects with large harvester farms to deliver subcomponents, especially walls, to me, so I can make large scale factory runs.


Have fun everyone,


Novarider Tam


PadreBook
Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:52 pm
#10



Erillion wrote:

Just made 30 fusions via factory ... and can feed more in when walls are ready again ..

its worth it as some bulk sale customers appreciate identical hopper sizes for their harvesters ... makes harvester management easier.

--

To conclude my thread ... I get the feeling that tapes are not REALLY worth the price people pay for it (8-13 mill for +25 according to some research I have done). I think I will use the money for other purposes.

Like paying other low level architects with large harvester farms to deliver subcomponents, especially walls, to me, so I can make large scale factory runs.

Have fun everyone,

Novarider Tam






It appears that +25/+25 gives approximately 8k extra hopper size same BER. Nothing too exciting so far. But I do look good in my outfit (which I used +15 wound treatment/injury treatment BE enhanced so it will double as useful for medic purposes).

Padre
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