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Thread: A bit puzzled
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NoXXX1
Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:48 pm
#1
I've been crafting a variety of medium havs lately with good quality resources however getting different BER on different types of hav.
for example i created a medium mineral, hit the efficiency up to 86%(approx) and got myself ber10 with points to spare. i then tried a medium moisture vap put in all my points to hit 93% efficiency but was still only getting ber9. This was also happening on medium chemicals which i had ago at.
am i doing anything wrong - do some hav types need a higher efficiency % than others to reach top ber?
Any help would be much appreciated 
ZenDragonMLS
Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:01 pm
#2
Remember - the final BER that you hit on a harvester is based on TWO scores:
- the quality (e.g., 83%, 97%) that you go on the "mining component" (e.g. light ore mining unit, harvesting unit)
- the quality of the final assembly
Note also that different harvester types may use different resources, and in different quantities, from one another. And ALL of the ingredients in that final assembly count toward the score. I don't recall the schematics offhand, but if harvester type A only needed steel and metal and type B needed ore in addition, then if you used the same great steel and metal in both but used crappy ore, type B would be lower quality.
In every case where someone has reported something like this, it has turned out to either be that they had a Light Ore Mining Unit with high number (e.g., +94%) and a fluidic drilling pump with a less great number (e.g., 83%) OR they were neglecting some key resource in the final assembly of the other type of harvester.
One thing that several people do that seems to help is when you make the schematic for the mining component, add the quality to the name of it as you make the schematic. So I have a schematic for "OMU +96 0122" to help me remember what the quality is of that particular series.
Hope this helps. O
- the quality (e.g., 83%, 97%) that you go on the "mining component" (e.g. light ore mining unit, harvesting unit)
- the quality of the final assembly
Note also that different harvester types may use different resources, and in different quantities, from one another. And ALL of the ingredients in that final assembly count toward the score. I don't recall the schematics offhand, but if harvester type A only needed steel and metal and type B needed ore in addition, then if you used the same great steel and metal in both but used crappy ore, type B would be lower quality.
In every case where someone has reported something like this, it has turned out to either be that they had a Light Ore Mining Unit with high number (e.g., +94%) and a fluidic drilling pump with a less great number (e.g., 83%) OR they were neglecting some key resource in the final assembly of the other type of harvester.
One thing that several people do that seems to help is when you make the schematic for the mining component, add the quality to the name of it as you make the schematic. So I have a schematic for "OMU +96 0122" to help me remember what the quality is of that particular series.
Hope this helps. O
Pawlin
Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:06 pm
#3
And if you aren't using lub oil for your chemical in all your steps, then you might try doing so. That might get you above BER10 on the other harvesters.
NoXXX1
Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:11 pm
#4
i think you may have it there zen
for the medium minerals i was crafting my own ore mining units at 90+% efficiency however for the other types i was using mining components that i aquired from a retired architect, these were ber4s but i have no idea what their final % was - guess its time to ditch them
GREAT answer =)
ZenDragonMLS
Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:26 pm
#6
Yeah, I've seen going out of business sales where people were selling stuff like generator turbines and manufacturing units alongside unlabeled OMUs. I've thought about the "non-critical" ones but unless I *really* knew the person and their work practices I wouldn't touch unlabeled mining components.
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