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Thread: Civilized Pricing Discussion
What do you mean by "person #2 getting a GREAT DEAL" do they somehiow get a lower price than person #1?
Heavies aren't as good for the ammount of resources they use, that's why most of the mineral harvesters are mediums, things sell by what they do, not what they cost the crafter to make.
The thing I hate is when i walk into an architecture shop and see a furniture vendor selling cheap, bad furniture at HUGE prices. I can't imagine anyone buying a novice architect bookcase for 1500 credits that uses only 150 metal. no, i dont want to spend 1k on a torch. Why are resources 3CPU anyway? Am I the only person that thinks that is WAY over priced? Using just an average harvester we can pull out resources at about 1/10CPU. If iput 5 harvesters with each a BER 10 sitting on a 50% metal spot, im maming like 200k credits a day, more than what i could make being a master BH from my missions. I'm also sick of going to vendorsthat are empty, or read "deeds" and we have no idea what kind of deeds. Driod deeds? House deeds? factory deeds? creature deeds?
Finally, the most annoying thing that has ever happend to me happend when i had been playing for about 2 weeks. I was an artisian with engineering 4. I was trying tosell BER 9 wind generators for 5k credits each and so far I had not sold a single one and I was struggling for credits. BER 9is better thanANY solar generator in any galaxy. This man walks into my shop, asks if If i sell solar generators. I tell him "no, but I do sell very good wind generators". He says to me his friend told him that solar generators are a very good deal. I try to explain to him my wind generators are better but he doesn't understand extraction rates. He went next door to an architecture shop and bought 3 solar generators with a BER of 7 for 20k each. This made me so mad when he told me he bought solar generators that I started screaming at him and calling him an idiot. After that I shut down my shop and just sold resources.
So nice to get that off oif my back. I don't think anyone is actually going to read everything i wrote; so if you did then you amaze me.
Well pretty much at least on our server we sell mostly mediums so that is where we should pad our prices.. and as for the person that is only buying two for personal use.. ok so its not an amount of profit they will receive but an amount they will save not having to pay 2.5+ cpu for the resources they need.. and if they are a crafter they can save up to 15 cpu for the specific High qual resources they need. So the cost benefits still effect them ...
Ekai wrote:The material required to make BERBEST is not the go out and grab from the ground next to your house stuff.For a BER13 mineral i need HR SR UT of 900 + and thats for the base materials, the walls had to be 90% or better which meens 900+ material.EkaiRiverveil CoreliaChilastra
BTW - the quality of the *walls* has absolutely nothing to do with the final BER of the harvester - the only two things that matter are the mining component and the final assembly.
ievb4fun wrote:
Ok, so hear are my pondering questions:
Why such the large cpu difference between sizes?
Minerals are a little odd because the mediums only require 3 structure modules rather than 3 walls. This makes it so that the mediums require a lot less materials to make than the heavies.
Also pricing is based more on supply/demand than anything. We can charge morecpu for medium minerals so we do.
Why even make Heavy models, since the profit is half, and the resources usage is LARGE?
I make them simply because my customers ask for them. My business is driven by direct orders primarily. If I make a heavy and sell it for 150k then I figure my profit on that one harvester is 60k or more. 60k of profit is 60k of profit. If you've got resources then its worth making them.If you're just trying to keep a vendor well stocked then sticking to mediums only would work just fine. THen if you have resources to use putting some heavies out might be worth a try.
How not to take advantage of the little guy, while not letting the BIG GUY take advantage of you?
If you want to cut the little guy a break on pricing then I think the only way to do so is in person. But its still hard to know who has money and who doesn't. You can't really do it via a vendor.