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Thread: price check: Bestine Paintings

ph8man
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:09 pm
#1

I know it all varies by server, but I'm wondering what other Architects are selling their crafted Bestine paintings for? Given these can be crafted in factories resulting in higher supplies, I'm guessing this would lower the price of them some.


Share your sales data with us.


Thanks,


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Silvadeus
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:31 pm
#2

I do 25k a piece, and as the schematic gets older and older, I increase the price....



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ComicsGuy
Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:29 pm
#3

I've sold almost 200 of the first paintings for 5K each. I kept the price low, because I had lots of spare hide to make large factory runs. But I think I will increase the price slightly as the newer paintings come out. Maybe 8K for the next painting, depending on the cost of the schematic and resources.
Thornstar
Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:09 pm
#4

Creating a schematic out of the schematic is wrong. It wasnot intended to be this way. I have already PM'd TH and from the response I got from him he seems to think this was an unintended feature aswell. What good is a unique schematic with a max run of 2 if you can create a schematic from it with a max run of 1000?

This is an exploit in my opinion, the sooner it gets fixed the better.

Pawlin
Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:45 pm
#5

If they fix it for future paintings then thats fine.


If they intended the schematics to be 2 use and no factory schematics for the first run then thats already ruined. I was kind of giving them the benefit of the doubt that they knew what they were doing ...




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willowbend
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:09 am
#6

You can look at this two ways. If the multi-run schematic was intended, then it allows everyone in the game to own a painting to place in their house. If you think it needs to be two only, then only the rich deserve fine artwork upon their walls. I believe there is room for both in this game just as in real life where prince AND pauper can own a painting and proudly display it in their homes.


Once again, the original instincts of the developers to allow this were more inclusive rather than exclusive of player enjoyment. I believe there should be some multi schematic and limited edition schematic to preserve a proper ratio. This IS NOT an exploit but suggests that someone in development was thinking of the players (thank god for him/her...may you always prevail).


Feisen
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:32 am
#7






Thornstar wrote:

What good is a unique schematic with a max run of 2 if you can create a schematic from it with a max run of 1000?





Even making a manufacturing schematic from these, it's unlikelythe averagearchitect has 50K of the same hide to make a full run of 1000 paintings. So the schematics are limited in that way, if nothing else.


I rather like that we can make a manufacturing schematic and produce them affordably so everyone who wants one can have them. However, there is nothing to say that these schematics will be repeated. What if the current schematic is a one time thing? Whathappens when the architects start running out of the resources used to make that painting? Three years down the road, will the current painting be a rare? I hope so.





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Thornstar
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:24 am
#8

Well we will see if this is changed or not. I personally want rare items in my house. Why would you want to proudly display a painting that everyone else has got?
Tunturi
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:48 pm
#9

I'm surprised they didnt do what they did with the other new schematics, and that is add a loot item to it in order to make it. Like a certain type of ink that only Nightsisters drop or something along those lines. That would definatly limit the number of factory runs someone could do since serial numbers on drop loot change on a regular bases.


For example, as a Master Tailor i can do factory run on lightweight military pack, but it is limited to the amount of Portion Of Heavy Leather I can get from the NPC's that drop it. So if i'm lucky i might get20 POHL with the same serial number, thus limiting me to a factory run of just 19 back packs.



Evialla
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:53 pm
#10

I produced a very moderate (100) factory run of them, of which I've not actually attempted to sell any of, nor placed any on my vendor as of yet. I'll likely just save my other extra 2 or 3 schematics I have and not use them for a long time.


The bazaar (Radiant)is heaped to overflowing with paintings for 6k, which is no surprise.


atreidesx2
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:58 am
#11

Reading the posts above makes me write this post.


For months architects and players have asked, begged and made prays for new schematics like paintings and rugs to be craftable and finally those prays were answered with a fun way to gave the new schematic. Yet what we do is moan about it.


First to the number of runs: at 48k a price to purchase this schematic with only two uses would price it at 24k. One for me one for my friend. None for anyone else. The factory run allows the painting to be distributed to many more people and the game is better for it. I don't rip people off and charge 4-6k a picture.


Second the uniqueness. Someone suggested a add in item from the nightsisters. First i have no combat skills so there is no way i could purchase it. Second can u imagine what the person who found the add in item would charge. It would make it unpurchasable. Therefore again not worth the purchase.



So please please please leave it as it is.
Faymar
Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:54 am
#12

Personally I like the way it is.


Rarity is defined by people bothering to buy the schematic, number of architects willing to give up the resources to do a large run and the fact that the schematics change (i.e. in a year the current schematic will fetch a higher price as no new ones are being made). If this rarity isn't enough, then possibly shift the schematic to one use only instead of two but with a system of different paintings (each month?) I don't think a run of two makes sense. As per the above post, it's a logical type of furniture, it just has an added rarity value compared to statues which I think makes it more interesting.


I sold my first painting for 5k, second for 10k, third for 20k and fourth and fifth for 30k, which isnow the price I've setttled on.

Youch1
Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:04 am
#13

The sheer volume of identical hides is the key factor, so no one's going to be churning them out by the 1000 - just the 100s here


Oh, and 25k a time offers me a steady turnover.


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