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Thread: new hotfix on houses

Kamakasi
Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:06 am
#1

Before the big patch,I had 65 items listed in my med. generic house.After big patch I had 189. Now after hot fix I have 243?...this makes me close shop till something is done about this...we need at least 250 in a medium house...no reason why you can't use your house as astore room and show place. I use packpacks for all my resources and parts...so each pack should only count as 1 item. So if items on vendor dont count and all containers count as 1 items thenI will be happy and then back to businessI can go..till thenI am offically shut down both for crafting and fighting for the time being...and being master arch and master artisanI have ch skills 1 and since pets no longer regen...I cannot even afford to fight to take break from my once ablity to craft and have fun. please do something about this real fast...or else i have no choice to surrender all arch skill and go combat or else quit game all together...I shall be watching what happend till then..wish the rest of you better luck my friends.


Roate A'fey (master arch, temporarily closed)

Sedryn
Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:44 am
#2

I too have temporarily closed. I have had 2 houses (med and small) just because I needed the extra space pre patch!. Now my stock house is pretty much usless.. ive had to toss everything in my vendor and place its stock room. I understand that if I leave it there to long it will go poof! so I guess I will have to destroy alot of things. Forget furniture in my home.. All because their database is CRAP and cant handle the game.





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ThorsAnvil
Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:53 am
#3

the devs are big on keeping the database to a managable size, so the idea that a pack should count as 1 item probably isnt going to be the right answer.


Using Ultima Online as a basis for the test case, we used to be able to place backpacks on the floor, and use them as storage and the servers grew so big it would take hours for backups and clients would crash when you went near a house.


so they implemented the X items per house system (much like we have) and it did work out. but one major difference and inherantly the flaw in this games system.


in UO, you have 5 kinds of metal, steel, shadow,... here we have the possibility of infinite different types, so we are going to be forced to use or through away resources that are using up space.



dont expect that the pack should only count for 1 item, not going to happen.




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Sotonin
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:02 am
#4

I see your point. But the crashing when going near a house wont really happen in this game because of the fact that those items arent loaded into your clients memory unless you enter the house. (Ever notice the vendors and such appearing, sometimes depending on lag a few seconds after entering).

But the database size itself i can see, would grow largely. I'd say the biggest solution would be to give each house a maximum of 10 or 15 backpacks (or unlocked containers) plus the 250 maximum random items in the house not in containers.

Putting the maximum item capacity at 1000 items total. This is a reasonable number and most ppl would be happy and not exceed this.

Maybe on a different scale depending on house size.

small house = 5 backpacks + 150 items.
medium = 10 backpacks + 200 items.
large = 15 backpacks + 200 items.
PA = 15 backpacks + 250 items.

-Sotonin



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ZeckAzuenden
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:04 am
#5

Original design of the game only alloted for a total of 500 item per individual. Pretty short sighted eh?



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BrainMandinga
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:07 am
#6

Please sign the petition that says Petition for Functional Houses.



"Which did you like better? 'Jedi' or "The Empire Strikes Back?"
"Jedi"
"Blasphemy!"
"'Empire' had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, find out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All 'Jedi' had was a bunch of Muppets."
Sotonin
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:12 am
#7

500 per individual is pretty sad. the only fix i can see that would make it ok would be to do 2 things. First Make it so furniture class items, (couches, tables, lamps, etc.) does NOT count towards the item capacity in your house. And make the containers themselves not count towards it. then the whole 250 if used for your items in house stored in containers or not. This i think is reasonable. 5 x the storing capacity of a backpack. although i think that 500 is a better limit for house capacity



- Sotonin Pakao [Master Doctor]
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:: Pakao Hospital & Med-Supply:
Located just west of Bestine on Tattoine at -2163, -3660
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:: Pakao Hospital [Coronet Division]:
Located just north of Coronet on Corellia at -251, -3036
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BrainMandinga
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:18 am
#8

Please respond to the Petition for Functional Houses, it addresses all of these issues in a managable way that I think would be entirely feasible.



"Which did you like better? 'Jedi' or "The Empire Strikes Back?"
"Jedi"
"Blasphemy!"
"'Empire' had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, find out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All 'Jedi' had was a bunch of Muppets."
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