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Thread: POLL: How much does ur structures go on your server?

FFChRoNiC
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:49 am
#1

these are prices im forced to sell at on Radiant in the past 2 weeks . I wanted to know how it is on other servers.


*NOTE*- highest price i can get outta someone not my friend. If i charge 3cpu i dont even get a reply no more.


Large Mineral - 75k


Fusion - 80k


Large Chem - 70k


Large Water - 65k


Large House - 110k


Medium House - 50k







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CandaVespin
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:57 am
#2

http://canda_vespin.home.comcast.net


Got all my pricing at that url.




Danvar Wookiee Master Architect
Rat Whackers Industries, Theed, Coronet & Tsarin
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Vyper51
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:59 am
#3

Here are mine, I borrowed the format for the list from another architect, forget who. These prices are all around 4 CP/R, way more than fair. I won't budge these, except for a 10% discount I give repeat customers, and exceedingly repeat customers get another 10%.




Structure----------------------------------------Resources---------Price
Deed for Chemical Extractor---------------------12,115------------50k
Deed for Deep Crust Chemical Extractor-------24,490-----------100k
Deed for Equipment Factory----------------------13,430------------55k
Deed for Food Factory-----------------------------13,550------------55k
Deed for Fusion Power Generator ----------------26,065-----------110k
Deed for Heavy Min. Mining Installation----------27,770-----------110k
Deed for Heavy Natural Gas Processor-----------22,495-----------90k
Deed for High Eff. Moisture Vaparator--------------7,990------------35k
Deed for Large Corellia House---------------------37,334-----------150k
Deed for Large Corellia House (St 2)--------------37,334-----------150k
Deed for Large Gen. Planet House (St 2)---------37,334------------150k
Deed for Large Generic Planet House-------------37,334------------150k
Deed for Large Naboo House-----------------------37,334 ------------150k
Deed for Large Tatooine House--------------------37,334-------------150k
Deed for Medium Coriella House-------------------20,600 -------------85k
Deed for Medium Gen. Planet House (St 2)-------20,600 -------------85k
Deed for Medium Generic Planet House-----------20,600 -------------85k
Deed for Medium Naboo House---------------------20,600-------------85k
Deed for Medium Tatooine House------------------20,600-------------85k
Deed for Micro Flora Farm------------------------------250------------750 creds
Deed for Mineral Mining Installation------------------3,607-------------14k
Deed for Moisture Vaparator--------------------------3,865-------------14k
Deed for Naboo Guild Hall---------------------------55,768-------------350k
Deed for Natural Gas Processor---------------------12,115-------------50k
Deed for Personal Chemical Extractor----------------250-------------750 creds
Deed for Personal Mineral Extractor-------------------250-------------750 creds
Deed for Personal Moisture Vaporator-----------------250-------------750 creds
Deed for Personal Natural Gas Processor--------------250-------------750 creds
Deed for Small Corellia House------------------------3,388--------------12k
Deed for Small Corellia House (Fp 2)-----------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Corellia House (St 2 Fp 2)-----------3,388--------------12k
Deed for Small Corellia House (St 2)-----------------3,388--------------12k
Deed for Small Gen. Planet House (Fp 2)-------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Gen. Planet House (St 2)-------------3,888-------------12k
Deed for Small Generic House (St 2 Fp 2)------------3,888-------------12k
Deed for Small Generic Planet House-----------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Naboo House---------------------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Naboo House (St 2)--------------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Tatooine House-------------------------3,388-------------12k
Deed for Small Tatooine House (St 2)------------------3,388------------12k
Deed for Solar Power Generator------------------------4,430------------14k
Deed for Structure Factory-----------------------------13,550------------55k
Deed for Wearables Factory---------------------------13,550-------------55k
Deed for Wind Power Generator--------------------------260------------750 creds




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That master title above my head used to mean something. Now it just means sucker
Maely
Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:10 am
#4

well this has been said over and over, but i feel like saying it again cause im bored


we (architects) screwed ourselves from day 1


selling at 3cpu hurt our economy, and then people undercutted prices even more


i dont know, maybe if those who didnt undercut stuck to higher prices eventually the economy woulod have improved. But i understand the need to make money and improve your craft.


everyone got their houses and now there is no demand


and when people started selling PA halls they did not significantlyup the price at all because it is a special master building


and it doesnt help that we arent doing anything to try and revive ou craft, maybe if they *gasp* add new stuff to our proffesion or change it in some way (add decay, even though im not sure that would be good) we will go about our pricing in a different way. It just disturbs me that people sell weapons for more than I sell a **edit** building for (small house).


sorry if i sound a little bitter.....


To be honest, at this point, you should only be an architect if you love building stuff. I do, thats why im sticking with it and going to become urban planner when they come out. Do it for the fun of playing the game and the feeling you get when you walk through a group of houses knowing you made all this.


Happy gaming everyone





Maelstrom
Bria server
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Neilla
Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:28 pm
#5

First, I have no trouble getting 4 credits per resource on Gorath, and I'm considering a slight price-increase because I've been running out of materials before I've been running out of customers.

However, we need to remember that we're in a very different place than many other professions. Consider, for example, a weaponsmith. Producing a batch of first-rate weapons is extremely difficult and very time consuming. They have to collect top-quality materials. Each step of the way they have to experiment again and again until they get the best possible results, then produce a batch of sub-components, then experiment again on the sub-components. Finally, at the end, they end up with a batch of weapons.

The process of resource selection and experimentation has huge value-added over the cost of the resources.

Now... what do we do? We collect tons upon tons of resources without concern for quality. We then make a few schematics (no need to experiment), run off 1000 structure modules, put them back into the factory and turn them into walls, run off a batch of generator turbines, small structure storage modules, manufacturing mechanisms, ore units, etc. Then, when someone wants something, we spend about 2 minutes nailing them together.

In other words, the value-added above the resources consists of something like 24 hours of factory time, 10 minutes making schematics, and 2-3 minutes per-unit on final assembly. In a functioning market economy, low value-added translates directly into low margins, and that is what we are seeing.

On the other hand, we have the advantage that we can do a huge volume business; pretty soon I'll be mining close to 1 million units of resources per week, producing 4 million credits worth of goods. That is a VERY good living - assuming the market holds up (which is very much in doubt). I've got a friend who is a master musician who would laugh himself to death at anyone who complained about this level of income.

There are three things that need to be fixed.

First, critical failures on final assembly needs to be eliminated or seriously mitigated, mostly because its pure aggravation that adds nothing to anyone's enjoyment and makes the game frustrating rather than hard.

Second, we need a way of producing goods with a higher value-added, e.g. by allowing for the production of harvesters which reduced power requirements or increased output. This would allow us to spend more time crafting and less time harvesting resources, and it would improve our margins to the point where many of us could dispense with harvesting entirely.

Third (and most important), we need some form of recurring revenue so that we don't become extinct when eveyone has their houses and harvesters.



-------------------------------------------------
Neilla Bastune, Mayor of Baishi
Master Architect and CEO of Baishi Heavy Industries
crobsahm
Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:09 pm
#6

Things I sell the most of on Tatooine , Natarius...


Tatooine PA Hall = 500K


Generic PA Hall = 600K


Large house = 150K


Medium house = 70K


All large harvestors = 100K, except water = 50K


hmm thats about it.


Moglie

Maely
Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:21 pm
#7

hell yea crobsahm


good prices on those PA halls, it makes me sick when i see people selling them for 350k


and it gets annoying when people yell at me when i tell them my price for a PA hall (same as yours)




Maelstrom
Bria server
Master Architect / Politician / Merchant / Pistoleer
Leader of Renegades of Imperium (RoI)
We have the best player city out there, yea thats right i said it, WE have the best
Come visit Mountainside on Talus
www.theimperium.net
FFChRoNiC
Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:38 am
#8

man i wish i was on another server im not gettin customers like that







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Before he hits the ground and dies....
A Final Flash before his eyes....


crobsahm
Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:24 pm
#9

Yeh, I fear it may not last long there are more and more people undercutting. But I will not sell for less, even if it takes longer. My key is I usually always have enough materials to complete an order right away. So this is the usual conversation.


Customer "How much for a Generic PA Hall"


Me"600K"


Customer "**edit** thats kind of expensive, I have seen PA Halls for 400"


Me "Well Generics take considerably more to make than Tatooine ones. I wil sell you a Tatooine one for 500K".


Customer "When can you have it ready by?"


Me " 15 minutes"


Customer "WOW everyone I talk to says 1 week or more, well can you give it to me for 550 since that is what XXX is selling them for?"


Me "XXX cant make it for you now, if you want it for 550 then get it from XXX and wait a week before you get it"


Customer "Yeh your right, ok make it for me"


So when I am low on resources I change my title from Master Architect to Slicer, that way people dont bug me, this way I can always make what people want in a matter of minutes.


Moglie.

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