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Thread: Anyone been able to make 43FR crafting stations since patch?
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Sinclare
Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:56 am
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Ok a few things have changed but I've compensated for most of it. I got up the ladder in DE and have gotten new droid storage compartments up in the high 90's%. However, I'm running into a wall right about 36FR and not sure what's going on.
The only thing that looks strange to me is the MSS which I now get an initial exp result of 22 and final around 80% on. Everything is highly experimented..most of it it 98% or better and I'm even using the last of my Roga (994 con) for the final combine.....I should be getting Much better than 35.9....
Granted I have been gone for two months so has something happend (stealth nerf to stations) that I'm not aware of?
Thanks in advance.
The only thing that looks strange to me is the MSS which I now get an initial exp result of 22 and final around 80% on. Everything is highly experimented..most of it it 98% or better and I'm even using the last of my Roga (994 con) for the final combine.....I should be getting Much better than 35.9....
Granted I have been gone for two months so has something happend (stealth nerf to stations) that I'm not aware of?
Thanks in advance.
Sinclare
Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:57 am
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Bumping cause I'd really like to know...it's either the MSS or it's like the storage compartment isn't counting toward the FR anymore.
Kalas72
Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:20 am
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I have made a few 43's since patch. I am using 1000 con copper with a 98% Droid storage, 87% MSS, and 97% Control Unit.
Grimtooth_tb
Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:46 pm
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Last night, I managed a 43.5 using 998 CD copper, 90% MSS, 99% DSC's and 99% Control Units.
Using the "exact same" resources and subcomponent percentages tonight, with nothing but great & amazing, I hit a wall at 36 ... Maybe it was lag or something. I had some other buggy stuff happen to me today.
None2Soon
Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:18 pm
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I make and sell 43+ and have made them since the patch. Interestingly enough, your 35-36 number is exactly what I get when I fail on the final experimentation. Perhaps you failed once and missed it...just a thought.
Sinclare
Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:12 pm
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OK, I got an update on this.... I did some experimenting tonight and I've figured out at least part of the problem. Granted I've been gone for 2 months so take this with a grain of salt since I'm behind on info.
It used to be that ALL componets of the Micro Sensor Suite had to be highly experimented (to the best of my memory). Ok, ever since I came back..even with the same componets (or equal qual) I've only been able to get the initial experimental percent on MSS to 22%....then 81% on the final with full experimentation. I used to get 26 and 89 respectively.
So I made up componets for the MSS with the crappiest resources I could find (final ezp % on these was 7-10%). When I made the MSS I put in these componets and used the exact same HQ resource I was using before and guess what...I got the same 22-81% on the MSS.
So, apparently the sub-componets no longer matter or add to the final combine.
So there is good and bad new here, Good: you can make your sub-componets out of the crappiest resources and still get the same result. Bad: Your overall FR is going to be lower because it's not adding the +FR for those sub componets and most likely your final experimentation on the MSS will be lower.
The question I would like to ask those who are still able to make 43 FR stations is: are you using componets from schematics pre-patch or are you making up these componets by hand?
If you are using pre-patch schematic componets would you please try making up one by hand once and see if you can get the same result.
Thanks, I hope I'm wrong about all this but I smell a hidden change or a bug.
It used to be that ALL componets of the Micro Sensor Suite had to be highly experimented (to the best of my memory). Ok, ever since I came back..even with the same componets (or equal qual) I've only been able to get the initial experimental percent on MSS to 22%....then 81% on the final with full experimentation. I used to get 26 and 89 respectively.
So I made up componets for the MSS with the crappiest resources I could find (final ezp % on these was 7-10%). When I made the MSS I put in these componets and used the exact same HQ resource I was using before and guess what...I got the same 22-81% on the MSS.
So, apparently the sub-componets no longer matter or add to the final combine.
So there is good and bad new here, Good: you can make your sub-componets out of the crappiest resources and still get the same result. Bad: Your overall FR is going to be lower because it's not adding the +FR for those sub componets and most likely your final experimentation on the MSS will be lower.
The question I would like to ask those who are still able to make 43 FR stations is: are you using componets from schematics pre-patch or are you making up these componets by hand?
If you are using pre-patch schematic componets would you please try making up one by hand once and see if you can get the same result.
Thanks, I hope I'm wrong about all this but I smell a hidden change or a bug.
Sinclare
Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:22 pm
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None2Soon wrote:I make and sell 43+ and have made them since the patch. Interestingly enough, your 35-36 number is exactly what I get when I fail on the final experimentation. Perhaps you failed once and missed it...just a thought.
Nope, I've been making these things since it was discovered how (I was the 2nd or 3rd person on Tarq to make them). Everything was 94% or above and most around 98% including the droid storage modules except the MSS.
The only resource I'm using now that is worse than what I was using 2 months ago is the chem..it's 979 oq and my orignal was 998 OQ. That however shouldn't make that much of a difference. Especially since my new copper for the MSS is con 992 oq 946 (better than what I used to use).
All my success were Great or Amazing because I watch this very closely.
If the problem isn't the MSS not adding the sub-componets FR anymore then I'm not sure what the problem is but it doesn't work the same way as when I left in late november of last year.
Sinclare
Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:39 am
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Ok, I've finally found the problem and it's really odd. A new carb ore had just spawned which was just slightly better (about 10 points) than what I was using in the combination of the MSS so I ploped down some harvs and pulled some up. Just for the heck of it I figured I'd give it a try so I used the new stuff...well to make a long story short I went from a 81% exp on final to a 90% on final. What's Really Really odd is that I had also tried some carb ore that was 992 OQ and was getting the same 22/81% but when I went with the 993 stuff BAM... 10 points on a resource that only takes 3 units of the combine shouldn't make that big of a difference right? I think that other carb ore was bugged or something. Anyway, problem solved..new stuff works great...took me from 35fr to 42.75 fr....Now if I can just find some 990+ polymer and gas to replace what I let get destroyed in the two months I was gone.....
(( Sad really I let 100k of 998 polymer and inert gas go poof... (cries)
Salokin
Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:05 am
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I'm making +44.3's...now that they have nerfed droid compartments....no hope for increasing FR since the DSC was last vestige of increase possiblility.....unless you schem'd the good stuff for a rainy day....Im on Kauri....Corellia.....NW of Coronet.... -900, -3800.....check it out to see if its true....I have six vendors inside house called BIG TICKETS...(its raining)
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