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Thread: Heavy Miners

Brian9824
Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:52 pm
#1

With the intense resource cost for heavy miners are they worth it? Is it better to just use mediums?



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Arkalius
Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:48 am
#2

Mediums only save you lots, however heavy miners will save you a bit of money. How? Well, a medium harvester is basically 2 personals in 1 lot (every stat is doubled). However a heavy miner has triple the maintanace and power consumption of a personal, but 3.5 times the rate (7units/min). That means you get that extra boost which makes them quite worthwhile. They are cost prohibitive though, so only the rich and material-hungry will really want to use them.





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monkeydust
Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:05 am
#3

How much do you think that the Heavy miners should sell for? I've got a few people asking me to build them and they are rather complex to make for a harvester.



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ThorsAnvil
Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:47 am
#4

most people have ackowleged that 3 x resources and round up seems to be about the norm.


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they have a component break down chart.




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seasquirrel
Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:08 am
#5

Three Times the Resources!? Do you have any idea how much resources cost on the market generally?

If I sell at 3X, then I would be selling myself short... those same resources sell for at least 5c each on the market... At least sell them for that or you would make better money being a miner/surveyor for Pete's sake.

D'ahn
Perpetual_Dark
Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:04 am
#6

This is why architects are having a struggle when selling medium houses for 60k and such.. people expect the prices to fall yet ask for 5-10 creds for resources when selling raw..


All it takes is one bad egg out there to start selling houses cheap to ruin the market for everyone.. I stick to my guns on tarquinas and dont move much on houses.. I might drop 5k for someone on a medium, but I typically make it back on furniture.. I wont make personal harvesters for people because it isnt worth my time for the 750 they are selling for on the bazaar.


Thankfully, my server's market is not in the toilet and I intend to do everything I can to keep it that way..


in general, figuring 3 cr per resource for the selling price of a finished product is the minimum any architect should sell wares for.. I try for more but this is my rock bottom.. if you whore out a medium house for 30k, dont come running to me when you are broke from harvesting..


I regularly buy medium grade metals on the bazaar for 2 credits each, and I ignore stacks of 200 for 1000 credits, especially if it is not ultra rare..




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Rarek
Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:23 pm
#7

Betatoxin I am so glad to hear you say that..When people send tells for things and complain about price I tell them you go bargain shop while i fill my 3 days worth of orders..Never sell yourself short to these cheap asses..I have had enough orders to keep my resources tied up for 3 days and making 3.5-4 per selling to friends..


Whats the best part of that? My friends never question my prices and keep me solid busy..



No I wont sell you a small house


No I wont make things for free if you have the resources


Yes I will be master in 3 days and sell you a PA at the price set by me



Its time to start selling stuff for what its worth..Dont let you customers tell you what they will pay ,YOU tell them what they are going to pay





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LstInSpc
Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:25 pm
#8

I'm gonna wait till im solidly on me feet as a Master Architect before I go to the heavy weights.



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Timdini
Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:29 pm
#9

There are more costs to Architecture than just cost per resource. Whenever resources shift, we have to move our 1-10 medium harvesters...which costs 3000 each to re-deed, then we re-place them down, then we pay them to work for a day 1500 each. Yup 4500 credits a harvester...I use 4 so each time resources shift we are talking about 18k GONE...like THAT. There are people that have 8 mediums...that is 36k to move em all.

Now Heavies...wow...must be about 6k to re-deed it...and 3k to repower it...OUCH. 9K EACH heh.

At least resources haven't shifted on Lowra yet.



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BuilderX
Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:53 pm
#10

actually heavies are only 150% of medium, not double... so the costs to redeed and repower would be 6750 not 9500... ^_^
docdavee
Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:03 pm
#11

"Wanted: People who will buy small houses for 10k, small extractors and power plants for 1k, medium extractors and power plants for 15k, and factories for 35k. Send mail to me with order, or check my house for supplies, -5507, 2683, south of Theed, Naboo, Radiant"
BuilderX



This is the kind of guy that destroys the market. 10k per house is way too low. 35k for a factory???? are u insane??? I sell factorys daily for 60k a pop. U are going to ruin the market idiot



drdavee


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Betatoxin
Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:22 am
#12

I mostly do not sell structures to people. I use my resources to upgrade my installations and sell lower cost items, components or resources.

I had someone aske me for 2 medium extractors and a solar last night. I told him 40K for the lot, or about 13.5K each.

A solar is 4430 and a mineral is 3607 so I was looking for about 3.5 times resources. He decided to go elsewhere and I say good riddance. I am better off not selling to the bargain hunters they hurt my business not help it.
BuilderX
Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:43 am
#13

I sell mediumn extractors and solar for 15k each...which is about 3-4c per resource...I barely sale any...maybe naboo is just poor...ohwell
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