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Thread: BER question for soon to be master

Eono
Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:43 am
#1

Does a 13 BER heavy out way a 10 BER medium as far as production vs maintenance cost / energy cost if they are used soley for mining grinding grade resources?


(In this profession out of desire not a holo and learning as I go)



Thanks

SparkyNine
Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:30 pm
#2

if you're comparing BER to maintenance costs, then the medium is the best value.

I'm a greedy ()*&$)# and I don't care about maintenance costs, so BER13 for me



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SparkyNine
Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:32 pm
#3

forgot to add:

just on a cost basis, if you're pulling 3 BER more (heavy vs medium) a day, you can recoup the extra maintenance/power cost just by selling some of the extra 3 you're pulling a night, so 13 is the way to go IMHO.



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Eono
Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:09 pm
#4

Thanks,


Thats kinda what I was thinking but wanted some feedback on it

ZenDragonMLS
Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:14 pm
#5

Yes, a BER10 medium can have slightly lower cost per unit mined than a BER13 heavy. Given that the cost per resource is in the 0.30-0.40 range and you are selling (directly or indirectly) the results for 2-4 cpu, a few cents difference in the cost is just noise. As Sparky says, the BER13 will give you about 18,000 more units of resources a week on a 60% spot, which is a significant hunk of resources. The more resources, the more profit - period.



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Thorsen
Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:19 pm
#6

Yes, it's really fairly simple.



10,000 ore selling at 2.7 profit = 27,000


13,000 ore selling at 2.6 profit = 33,800




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Zypen
Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:52 pm
#7

From the sounds of it your wanting to get the lowest CPU(cost per unit) on your side, then a Medium BER 10 is the way to go. Though if you want more resources to sell to make a bigger profit at slight higher costs then Heavy BER 13 is they to go. If you do a bit of searching this question did come up and we went into greater deals into it then I'm going to do it here.


We found that in most cases a Medium harvester would cost around .29-.33 CPU and the Heavies was .47-.54 CPU, if memory serves me. These figures was just based off the Maintains cost alone, as it was assumed that one mined his own power and power is really cheep to mine.


ZenDragonMLS
Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:10 pm
#8

Actaully, the cost per unit difference is really very negligable - it's between 0.01 and 0.08 credits per unit difference between medium and heavy.

Seriously - looking at the operating cost on these is really really a red herring. Your goal is more resources - to use directly as an artisan or to sell for money.

Hard numbers: assume a 60% concentration spot, power cost of 0.25 credits per energy unit, and selling the resource for 2.5 credits per unit. Also, assume redeed every 7 days and factor that into the operating costs.

A BER10 medium will pump up 8,640 units of resources in a day, for a cost of 0.25 credits per unit, giving a profit of 19,431.

A BER13 heavy will pump up 11,232 units of resources in a day, for a cost of 0.29 credits per unit, giving a profit of 24,827.

You can look at the 0.25 vs 0.29 credit per unit operating cost all you want. You can stare at it, or pray to it, or wax poetic about it. Personal, I'll take that extra 5,396 credits a day profit from the BER13 heavy every day and quietly bank it.

Mediums are useful as a stepping stone to heavies. No matter if you are mining for money or mining for resources, heavies are your long-term friends.



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