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Thread: BER14 Finally got it to work Thanks for the help

emovamalla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:39 am
#1





http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=305286


http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=305287


99% + new isp buff still = BER13 for me. I am using:

Steel - Geodris

CR: 700

CD: 587

DR: 973

HR: 974

MA: 384

OQ: 405

SR: 958

UT: 976


How far can I possibly be off? Is it the SR that is killing me? I have primarily been using this steel with very nice results in the past. Getting new steel that isbetter than this will cost more CPU than what it's worth. I REALLY had my hopes up for BER14 today.


Do I need to be at Private station in Research Center with better poly cake and bespin port... or is it my SR that is holding me back?

Message Edited by emovamalla on 08-31-2005 07:36 PM



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walcyradiant
Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:45 am
#2






emovamalla wrote:
HR: 974

SR: 958

UT: 976




25% HR, 25% SR, 50% UT = for your steel 971. You need 980.39216*1.02=1000, least that's the math I've been using. Everyone has stated 981 is what you need, so you're 10pts off still. =)


If I were you, I'd look around for some nice kammris iron or something. Do a search on swgcraft.com for 'metals', type in the %'s for hr/sr/ut, and sort by the avg to see what metals are out there on your server. Then do a bazaar search and see who's selling. This way you can use some higher end metal (iron usually) to help w/ the steel you're using to reach ber14.


Message Edited by walcyradiant on 08-31-2005 11:47 AM



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emovamalla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:56 am
#3






walcyradiant wrote:






emovamalla wrote:
HR: 974

SR: 958

UT: 976




25% HR, 25% SR, 50% UT = for your steel 971. You need 980.39216*1.02=1000, least that's the math I've been using. Everyone has stated 981 is what you need, so you're 10pts off still. =)


If I were you, I'd look around for some nice kammris iron or something. Do a search on swgcraft.com for 'metals', type in the %'s for hr/sr/ut, and sort by the avg to see what metals are out there on your server. Then do a bazaar search and see who's selling. This way you can use some higher end metal (iron usually) to help w/ the steel you're using to reach ber14.



Message Edited by walcyradiant on 08-31-2005 11:47 AM





I have someREALLY good Kammris Iron I used back when I was making weapons, but that won't help my OMU woes though will it? 2/3 of the OMU is Steel. I'll get back in game in a few hours and test it out.


If I need new steel, I am done for. Bria is way too cutthroat on Resources like those needed in these high of stats. I'd almost be better off making ber14's off 30K resources deeds. LOL J/K but you know what I mean. The cost / benifit for me if I can't get Geodris to work will be horrible.




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emovamalla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:37 pm
#4



http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=305391


HAHA... so I look for the best resource possible that will hit 981 and THE ONLY steel for sale that could do it was Diveasoiam which is:

UT: 984 * 0.50 = 492

SR: 998 * 0.25 = 249.5

HR: 968 * 0.25 = 242

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983.5


Now... I just paid 30 cpu for a 100K brick of this stuff (I told ya Bria was cutthroat on resources) and I KNOW this stuff has to be usable, right?


WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!... or am I back to where I was, just 3 million credits poorer?


EDIT: Thispost is because I didn't hit BER7 as noted by other people that I have done BER14's. Does the OMU have to say BER7 or are these going to be good enough? AT 30 cpu, I really would not like to just "experiment" around with diff combo's until I know a little more about this.

Message Edited by emovamalla on 08-31-2005 06:43 PM



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GrimLord_
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:05 pm
#5

Read the other thread about it. My resources were 984 and I hit 6 a few times, then on the 4th attempt i hit 7 (and i didn't change anything), I think between 980 and 990 it's a bit of luck till you get a good one.



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KwejiboV
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:19 pm
#6

short answer: if your resources are good enough (avg > 980), you still need one amazing success.


long answer: with resources that are good enough, you will start with 29%. Each great success will add 7% per exppoint. 10 points will give you +70% for a total of99%. Now, the game will not let you experiment anymore if you hit exactly 99%. So you need at least 1 amazing success (which is 8%) to get 100%.


(note: i got an amazing success and hit BER 7 on the OMU with only 99%, and made BER14 just fine)


I hope this is clear.


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emovamalla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:31 pm
#7






KwejiboV wrote:

short answer: if your resources are good enough (avg > 980), you still need one amazing success.


long answer: with resources that are good enough, you will start with 29%. Each great success will add 7% per exppoint. 10 points will give you +70% for a total of99%. Now, the game will not let you experiment anymore if you hit exactly 99%. So you need at least 1 amazing success (which is 8%) to get 100%.


(note: i got an amazing success and hit BER 7 on the OMU with only 99%, and made BER14 just fine)


I hope this is clear.


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emovamalla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:38 pm
#8

Well. I got BER7 FINALLY!!! YEAH!!! /cheer macro.


... and people say 12 pt is useless. I was working on OMU attempt #6 and got a critical fail and had 2 boxes to fill and had 2 points left. The next experiment was great and thenamazing and that put me into BER7 on OMU!





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SeeceoEeheer
Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:58 pm
#9

I hit 7 on the OMU but I put them Into a heavie, and got 91% becuase i have a limited amount so im not shure whats going on do I need to use the same resources that I used for the OMU?



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Pawlin
Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:42 pm
#10






SeeceoEeheer wrote:
I hit 7 on the OMU but I put them Into a heavie, and got 91% becuase i have a limited amount so im not shure whats going on do I need to use the same resources that I used for the OMU?






You will need to use 981 quality level materials on the OMU and during the final combine.





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Pawlin
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:17 am
#11






emovamalla wrote:



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I have someREALLY good Kammris Iron I used back when I was making weapons, but that won't help my OMU woes though will it? 2/3 of the OMU is Steel. I'll get back in game in a few hours and test it out.







No you're right. You won't be able to get a 100% OMU with that 970 steel no matter how good the iron is cause OMUs use a lot of steel. But depending on the schematic, a really good iron might be enough to pull your average up. Like the fluidic drilling pump is 100 units steel and 185 units metal so a 990 level iron plus your 970 steel would give you above 980 for that part.



BTW, Bria has an iron currently in spawn right now named 'goka' with HR 998 , SR 957 , UT 997.Hope you're mining that stuff. Thats 987 level and will be really useful.






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emovamalla
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:58 am
#12






Pawlin wrote:





emovamalla wrote:



...


I have someREALLY good Kammris Iron I used back when I was making weapons, but that won't help my OMU woes though will it? 2/3 of the OMU is Steel. I'll get back in game in a few hours and test it out.







No you're right. You won't be able to get a 100% OMU with that 970 steel no matter how good the iron is cause OMUs use a lot of steel. But depending on the schematic, a really good iron might be enough to pull your average up. Like the fluidic drilling pump is 100 units steel and 185 units metal so a 990 level iron plus your 970 steel would give you above 980 for that part.



BTW, Bria has an iron currently in spawn right now named 'goka' with HR 998 , SR 957 , UT 997.Hope you're mining that stuff. Thats 987 level and will be really useful.






Im not in game but I am 99% sure I have some Iron that is equally as good as that spawn(995 ish on UT/HR). I mined about 500K units of it maybe 6 months ago or so. I'll give it a whirl on pumps and see what happens. Unfortunately, Deep Crust Extractors& Moistue Vaporatorssell about as good as Ottomans for me (not good LOL) and using THAT much BER14 material in Gas mines is cost prohibitive IMO.


I really only specialize in Heavy Mineral and that is it, so this is a real downer.


walcyradiant, thanks for the mathmatical explination. That gives me something to aim for when looking at new resource spawns.




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bluejanus
Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:17 pm
#13

Ok I made a BER 7 Turbo Fluid using duralloy steel and kammris

The duralloy was 996 HR/ 995 SR/ 989 UT (120 units)
The kammris was 996 HR/ 975 SR/ 974 UT (210 units)

I'd say the percentages aren't weighted like some conjectured and use the average 980 formula.





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