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Thread: Question on Medium and Heavy harvesters

Haazelthorn
Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:10 am
#1

Hello, I ve trained the Installation tree to IV : heavy harvesters.


I think there's something weird with the medium and heavy harvestors recipes :


for example, a medium mineral harvester (mineral mining unit) requires 3 structurals modules to build. A medium chemical harvester (chemical extractor) requires 3 WALL modules ... that's 30 structural modules ..


and the same goes for heavy :


a heavy Flora farm requires 6 structural modules. A heavy mineral extractor or chemical, requires 6 WALL modules .. 60 structural modules.


I think structural and wall modules were inverted somewhere don't you think so ?




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Haaz'ElThorn , Kor Playa, Corellia - Kauri,
Master Weaponsmith
PA leader of "Band Of Frogs" (BoF)
Kamika
Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:20 am
#2

it's amazing.... 60 sturctural are they crazy ? with the big nerf on mineral... **edit**.. I will stick with medium I guess...



Kamika
Master architect who gave up
Starsider
PA - None is Thx

Taukarrie
Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:36 am
#3

an equipment factory takes 3 wall modules as well.. i dont see what the big complaint is. these are major structures. you shouldnt be able to just whip out 10 a day. i can see why a flora farm is much less. much of the structure consists of organic type material theoreticly.

besides, we need a reason to charge people 60k credits for these sought after buildings
Deamun
Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:54 pm
#4

Sorry Taukarrie I totally disagree. Harvesters are for collecting resources not wasting all of them. Do the math that is a LOT of ore just for one harvester. You'd be WAY better of having friends drop a bunch of small ones.



And 60k? Are you crazy? If it has that many resources, follow the 5c/resouce minimum for pricing and thats a VERY expensive piece of harvesting waste.


Factories on the other had SHOULD be expensive. Look at what they do for you! They craft for you! That is a way more major role than that played by a resource gatherer. Although our one bottleneck is resources. But no one else has that problem.


I bet they did just invert the 2 requirements.


Alexis Silvermoon


Sunrunner - Tatooine Bestine


Master Artisan, Novice Architect, Novice Merchant, Novice Creature Handler, Novice Pistoleer

Haazelthorn
Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:23 pm
#5

eheh



my point is not only on the cost in ressources, but in the difference between each medium harvesters : some requires only 3 structural modules, some other require 3 wall modules ... why ?


mineral is cheap (3 struct modules)to build but chemical is too much (30) ... and they're both medium extractors. for small one, they all cost the same in ressources


don't understand the logic, I guess that s a bug




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Haaz'ElThorn , Kor Playa, Corellia - Kauri,
Master Weaponsmith
PA leader of "Band Of Frogs" (BoF)
ShenMolo
Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:57 pm
#6

Howdy Neighbor!



I don't have any answers to your questions, but I'm glad to finally figure out what BoF stood for hehe, it's actually quite clever!


Your harvesters and mine seem to share a lot of the same fields.


Im dropping a Fusion Power Generator near my house tonight if you want to stop by and check it out. I can't find anywhere any information about them. I've heard they are bugged but we shall see.


See you in Kaadara!



Shen Molo - Architect


Molo Heavy Industries


Consortium


Kauri





Shen Molo-Kauri * Shenj Molo-Starsider * Silwa Farsteader-Kettemoor * Fozzibacca-Tarquinas
Haazelthorn
Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:20 am
#7

Heya Neighbor


Nice to meet you there


Yeah you finally discovered our secret ..


I llfor surestop by, I m really curious to see a Fusion power generator. I can't remember seeing one. Solar power gen already pumping 8 kg/h do you know how much are fusion gen ? 16 ? that would be great


hey other people, I really want to know if this is intended a medium chemical extractors cost 10 times what a medium mineral harvester cost in ressources ! If someone know that would be great




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Haaz'ElThorn , Kor Playa, Corellia - Kauri,
Master Weaponsmith
PA leader of "Band Of Frogs" (BoF)
ShenMolo
Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:12 am
#8

Haaz,


With the factory bug I couldn't complete the Fusion Gen last night. I was pulling my hair out for want of 4 Identical Small Structure Storage Modules. My factory would take the recs but wouldn't make a **edit** thing.


I'll try again tonight & give ya a tell.


Shen Molo - Architect


Molo Heavy Industries


Consortium


Kauri




Shen Molo-Kauri * Shenj Molo-Starsider * Silwa Farsteader-Kettemoor * Fozzibacca-Tarquinas
Gargonix
Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:39 am
#9

I was resource number crunching and noticed the difference in the medium harvesters. It is possible that mineral cost less because you need it to mine the minerals for the other harvesters. Does anyone know if the medium chemical and gas have the same production as mineral and moisture?


On similar small structure storage modules. I don't have a factory yet and don't understand the problem here. I do know it takes me 45 seconds to make them similar by tool.


Can we get an official say on the harvester costs??

Haazelthorn
Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:23 am
#10

It is possible that mineral cost less because you need it to mine the minerals for the other harvesters.



---> I don't think so, because heavy harvesters chemical and minerals cost the same : 6 wall modules, heavy flora harvester cost only 6 STRUCTURAL modules.


I m pretty sure things were messed up.


Shen, maybe I can give you the "same" structural modules you need, I think I gotta some left in a crate.




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Haaz'ElThorn , Kor Playa, Corellia - Kauri,
Master Weaponsmith
PA leader of "Band Of Frogs" (BoF)
Griswel
Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:00 am
#11

WHat is the recipe for mediums? could someone post it?


Do mediums require anything from other architect rows or boxes? or can I grab construction I and II and make mediums?

Haazelthorn
Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:07 am
#12

you can do medium with installation II



recipes depends on which medium :


medium mineral is 3structural modules


medium chemical is 3wall modules




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Haaz'ElThorn , Kor Playa, Corellia - Kauri,
Master Weaponsmith
PA leader of "Band Of Frogs" (BoF)
Bolanos
Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:19 am
#13

Can anyone tell me what the maintanance cost is in order to reclaim one of these Medium harvester's? I know the personal ones is 1500 but I haven't been able to find a post with ahard number, just one person who 'thinks' it's 2500 and I'm afraid to lose the medium harvester after I paid so much for it. Thank you.
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