Architect Archive

Thread: Your Profession- The Architect

Solen80
Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:28 am
#1

If you don't care about being stiffed on your profession, Why should the devs care?


Seriously think about this, they have not done one thing to our profession that is specifically related to us.


Sure they fixed factories and crafting...but that applies to all crafter professions. They still have not fixed the numbers, they still have not worked out the decay issue,some furniture looks exactly the same, we can't color anything, the deeds look like triscuts, etc. etc. etc.


The list is endless...


If you guys just want to roll over on your stomachs and say "oh, the macro will fix it" or "we can wait another month". Fine. Don't keep posting about how many crit fails you had or how "everyone" is lowballing you.


I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but is does apply to a majority of you. The only way we can change this is to demand a change.



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Cyberthugg
Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:19 am
#2

mmmmm triskets
Jigrah
Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:24 am
#3

We would have to get their attention somehow, maybe a profession wide sit in in the general discussion chat? We can be in it when we are in game and our presence will simply state our opinion, At 7:00 pm tonight (central) I am going to be in the chat askign when architects will get fixed, the CSRS will not have answers but i gurantee if we get enough of us in there our presnce will not go unnoticed. Ill be there, hope many of you will be too.
_-ArchAngel-_
Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:50 am
#4

Well maybe if we had an active correspondant we'd get further... All other professions have already stated their main issue in the Dev forum and have recieved feedback from their correspondant, but not us =(


PMing Holo for a correspondant would be a good idea.




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Sedryn
Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:44 am
#5

They are under the false impression they have us covered with next years Player Cities addition.
Fact is, Maybe 20-30 Architects per server will be able to use that skill.. None will make money from it.



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Solen80
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:08 am
#6

It's still a shame that none of the architects care enough about their profession to do anything about it.


At least in the smuggler forum they stick together...




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Meplorium
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:16 am
#7

When you look at a lot of the other professions, Architect seems rather complete. I would say there are a lot of things that can be improved, but we aren't 'broken' or 'useless' like so many other professions are. The only thing that will bite us in the butt is the lack of turn over on structures. That will make us useless shortly. At this point, architects aren't broken, so they won't be doing anything as they are too busy fixing those that are broken. We are on the list, just no where near the top.



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Dayln
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:19 am
#8

I care very much about my profesion, and my profits, it is your profits that I dont care about. This is called business. Do you think Sears CEO stays awake at night worrying that the people at Target are not getting enough profits?


Dayln


p.s. Hey, did anyone notice I didnt mention Wal mart? .......... oops

GreenLonghorn
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:39 am
#9

I'm in


master architect from coronet, heh.


and yeah lets keep bumping this to the top, I'm very much in agreement. oh, and I know a good deal of architects that I can bring in as well.




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PosiTec
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:41 am
#10

No... he doesnt care if they are not making money.


On the other hand, he has to put food on the table in real life... andI hardly need to remind you that this is aGAME (and suposedly a social one at that).


I agree that you should not participate in price fixing, but i think the issue that architects have is that some price their products in a very anti-social way. They are only thinking of their short term interests, but they are screwing up the long term economy for every other player. I think (though I could be wrong) that it's the selfish attitude people don't like.


Itmight have been interesting if banking had been included in the game. Highly profitable businesses would have had access to much greater borowing at lower rates, and could have used the money to dominate the market..... on second thoughts maybe that just a little too realistic to be fun


You forgot Wal-mart (sortof), but you managed to sneak in PvP economics


Dayln
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:47 am
#11

I dont know about them, but I am ONLY thinking in long term terms.


I will only be able to stay in business if people know that I sell for less as the demand drops further. it is not an easy task without advertizing on the world boards and in here. Something I dont do.


You dont think prices will go up as demand drops do you? Quite the opposite.

Solen80
Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:08 pm
#12

Jigrah , yes we need to do something like this. We need some way to organize all of the lazy architects though. None of them seem to care that they have to do an insurrmountable amount of work for pittens, and on top of it all we are under the constant hammer of crit fails.


Archangel , yes we need a correspondant that will be dedicated to dealing with getting the cold shoulder all the time. I sure as hell didn't want to be in his shoes. If he would just come back we could at least try to form a group to help him out, so he doesn't feel like he has to do it all himself.



  • We need to form a group as architects, stop posting about all the nitty-gritty things that happen to us and constantly pose the problems that we have always had.



  • Everyone in this forum bumps a message off the front page in a matter of minutes, we need to stick with the issues one at a time, not several at once. We will never get their attention at the pace we are going now.

I've seen you guys post before and i know you guys are as serious about this as i am. I don't fail often , but i'm sick and tired of having a profession that is still broken.





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PosiTec
Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:43 am
#13

Dayln,


No.. i did economics too... and obviously in the real world a drop in demand will tend to lead to lower prices.


There are of course plenty of instances where this wont hold... such as ones where the price would have to drop to below cost... in which case the product simply wont be produced, or where a price drop causes a company to simply move to a different product because it sells for more (hmmm.... raw materials vs low-price structures )


However, the basic laws of supply and demand dont apply that clearly in a game. While I think that prices MAY move to a degree, I also believe that the average bank balance of many characters is going through the roof... making the money thet pay less important to them. In effect you have money reducing in value.. and at the moment I happen to think its reducing in value alot faster than the structure market is shrinking.


When you consider that a high level combat type can earn 100's of K's of creds in a realtively short time, and the very highest priced structures are only a couple hundred K, I think its clear that money quickly becomes relativey meaningless.


I suspect this is the reason that I dont have any more problem moving structures than you do, and that you aren't being put out of business by those that price even lower.


I thougt it was your customer relations that made you popular, not your prices. I do hope your customers aren't just using you


To be honest, I'm not trying to look that far ahead. I don't think we know enough (heck anything) about the way that SOE will change the game, and therefor I'm not going to try to build a character around it. I enjoy Architecture... but I won't be worrying if demand drops some. I could use the time to do other things in the game.


We should all thank SOE for a system where anyone that isnt happy can fairly painlessly change profession.


One of the smartest moves I have ever seen in a MMORPG.

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