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Thread: Holocron says Duping doesnt really hurt anyone long term

AwaitingWoW
Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:37 pm
#1

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=325595&page=3




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Naufragus
Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:44 pm
#2

hollowclown has no clue.....
Arkalius
Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:26 pm
#3

He's right... once they fix the dupe bug, the duped resources will eventually get used up (and if they ban the exploiters, whatever they had on them goes to oblivion) and things will return to normal. There will be no permanent damage.





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Vadikar
Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:32 pm
#4

They will never release information about banned players, but be sure they ARE banning dupers. I know of one instance with one guy that had 3 accounts. All Banned.


As far as economy, come on, 3 months down the road this game will hace consumed billions of resources, trillions even, a few million will mean nothing.

TGPO
Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:44 pm
#5

The flaw is the assumption that you will have the player "long term" to even make the impression.


Bad strategy.





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ShaneMcMahon0
Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:55 pm
#6

I think holo is saying the duping that has gone on already won't hurt. He is asuming they fix the duping problem and ban the cheaters in a short period of time. Im sure he knows as everyone does that if duping is let go, the secret to how to do it will be let out and will totally ruin the game.



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pokpro
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:22 pm
#7

I don't believe he has a f'ing clue how long it will take the extra resources to exit the system through use.


Take 1 duper with 100 stacks of 100,000 (a very reasonable number considering what it would be worth to stockpile it all).


Multiply by 3 friends who help the duper by storing the same amounts. (or perhaps extra accounts of the duper!)


Multiply by the people who found out about the bugs and started duping in earnest upon the server. Perhaps the average number might be 5 per server (perhaps many more).


That adds up to 100x100,000x3x5 = 150,000,000!! That is right!! 150Million resources per server that shouldn't be there. And this is a conservative estimate!


True they may catch some of the dupers and their friends and extra accounts. Say they catch about 50% of the worst dupers, we will still have an extra 75 Millioin resources per server. Imagine how much you could build with 75 Millioin resources.


75 Million resources could make over 1350 Guild Halls...


or 75 Million resources could makeover 2000Large Houses...


or 75 Million resources could makeover 6200 chemical extractors (medium size chem extractors)


or 75 Million resources could make over 22,000 small houses...


or 75 Million resources could make over 300,000 personal mineral extractors.


Hmmm.... How long will these resources last? I'd guess at least 6 months. This is no small deal?


HOLLOW MAN needs to WAKE UP!!

Jarvel
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:54 pm
#8



75 Million resources could make over 22,000 small houses...

or 75 Million resources could make over 300,000 personal mineral extractors.

Hmmm.... How long will these resources last? I'd guess at least 6 months. This is no small deal?

HOLLOW MAN needs to WAKE UP!!






Another armchair dev makes mama proud she spent all them shiny dollar bills turning her toothless ingrate into a career junior college math major..

Like them or not, The Devs have better access to numbers and figures then you and so just let it be. Or quit, that would be good. You can quit, and decrease the surplus population.. hehe

Besides, I'm not so sure a guy should be making fun of Holocrons name when his own sounds like he's a professional at pocket billiards.. (quick, rewind to that scene where princess leia is chained). LOL
AdmiralDarkhue
Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:26 am
#9

Duping is killing architects b/c the whole profession is based on resources. If enough people have duped millions of resources then we can see the economy plumet to 1 cred per unit or less.


From what I have heard, there is still duping in the game. The fact that the big update said that resource duping had been fixed is a half-truth.


They fixed the duping exploits they knew about, but there are more out there. I don't know what they are, but they are supposed to exist still.

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