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Thread: Possible change or bug in crafting stations

Stawei_Idow
Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:49 pm
#1

i was using my doc character on chilastra last night and wanted to make some factory schematics, but not having my own station, i went to find one in a friends house.
when i started making the items, i got the familar 'cannot access hopper' message, but i could not do any experimentation on objects.
tried this a couple of times, thought maybe there was a lag issue or something, so i logged and came back this afternoon and tried again with the same result.
i was kind of tired, so i didn't think about using my droid with a station installed last night, but when i used the droid today, i had no problems experimenting and creating schems.

i browsed the forum and announcements but didn't see anything about this.
did i miss something?
can we not use others craft stations to experiment anymore?

i have a m. art/arch on eclipse and haven't tried to use someone elses stations yet, so i don't know if it is a server specific issue or what.
i will check it out later tonight.




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If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

Stawei_Idow
Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:54 pm
#2

just a check, i tried posting this in the artisan forum too, but got a 'post flood' error.
can i only make one post per hour???




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

Stawei_Idow
Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:56 pm
#3

i was using my doc character on chilastra last night and wanted to make some factory schematics, but not having my own station, i went to find one in a friends house.
when i started making the items, i got the familar 'cannot access hopper' message, but i could not do any experimentation on objects.
tried this a couple of times, thought maybe there was a lag issue or something, so i logged and came back this afternoon and tried again with the same result.
i was kind of tired, so i didn't think about using my droid with a station installed last night, but when i used the droid today, i had no problems experimenting and creating schems.

i browsed the forum and announcements but didn't see anything about this.
did i miss something?
can we not use others craft stations to experiment anymore?

i have a master art/arch on eclipse and haven't tried to use someone elses stations yet, so i don't know if it is a server specific issue or what.
i will check it out later tonight.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

duncje
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:14 pm
#4

They've supposedly made droid crafting stations useable to the owner only, not sure about the arch made ones, though...



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Stawei_Idow
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:21 pm
#5

i saw that droids were usable by master only now, which is fine by me, but the puzzling part about this was that i could 'use' the private station, just couldn't experiment.
i could see a hopper tab in the craft window, but it said i couldn't use the hopper on it, didn't try to either, maybe i should have.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

hamhamthe3rd
Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:22 am
#6

are you sure you could use it? i meanare all of your draft schematics listed when you open your tool infront of the machine? i could have sworn certain schematicsrequired "private" stations in addition to specific tools. the way it was before, it was broke and now its how it should be. if you dont own the machine you cant use the machine benefits.
Jake-MP
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:32 am
#7

I've found that his has happened to me from time to time in a room full of crafting stations... even before the JTL patch. Moving closer to the crafting station you wanna use normally helps the situation. FWIW, I have used a crafting station (in a room full of other stations, even) that isn't owned by me since the JTL patch went live. (I don't have a structure station in my house but wanted to make a starship crafting station.)
Stawei_Idow
Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:02 am
#8

i tried this with my character on eclipse, and didn't have the same problem, so i need to go back to chilastra and try it again.
i know i was close enough to the station, i was basically leaning against the thing, as i said, i got the 'cannot access hopper' message, and there was a hoppper tab in the crafting window.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

Stawei_Idow
Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:22 am
#9

i tried this with my character on eclipse, and didn't have the same problem, so i need to go back to chilastra and try it again.
i know i was close enough to the station, i was basically leaning against the thing, as i said, i got the 'cannot access hopper' message, and there was a hoppper tab in the crafting window.

i didn't look to see if i had all available schems listed, wasn't concerned with it at the time. i was making med components and i could have made them without any station, i just needed to make factory schems.

the use of craft stations is based on complexity, i believe that if the comp is less than 15, or maybe 10, you can make it with a general tool, if it's 15-20 you need a specific tool like a food tool, 20-25 you need a public station, and anything over 25 requires a private craft station. numbers may not be exact, but they are close.

having a private machine usable by the public may have been a mistake originally, and if they want to fix it, thats fine, just list it as one of the changes in the new publish.
i don't 'need' to use someone elses machines, as both of my caracters have them now, my art/arch toon made his own for the house, and my doc has a droid with a station module in it, i was tired at the time and didn't think about using the droid, i just went to a friends house that had some stations.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

Kryxal
Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:07 pm
#10

I don't know the exact problem, but I know one thing to check ... were you getting schematics that required a crafting station?



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Pawlin
Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:58 pm
#11

I tested one of the stations in our mall and it works fine.


Did you have any problem with any other crafting stations?


You might not have been close enough to the station at the time.




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Jake-MP
Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:07 am
#12

Getting the hopper message doesn't seem to be indicitive of being in the influance of the proper crafting station. I do not have a structure station in or anywhere near my house but I still get that message if I'm in my house when I craft something using the structure tool. I have never, ever, used the hopper so I couldn't tell you if you can actually use a hopper from an incorrect station or not.
Stawei_Idow
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:35 am
#13

i went back to the original house i had this problem in on chilastra/corellia and had the same problem, but i couldn't find any other stations in town to verify the issue.
although i didnt craft, i looked for the complex schems when i started the station and they werent there, so im sure i wasnt 'using' the station.
unfortunately, i dont have any other schems that require a station except for my med parts so i cant try using a weapon, clothes, or structure tool to see if it is happening with those too.
anyone on chilastra want to try with some other tool?




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

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