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Thread: Generic Architect Debate #2 GAD2

Pawlin
Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:14 am
#40

Nerfer: /sigh


Swapper: /whipser Ya its sad.


Nerfer: /whisper So ... ya wanna go back to my place? /wink


Swapper: /whisper ... Sure why not. /smile


** Nerfer and Swapper walk off into the sunset holding hands **





Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Dvnce
Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:45 am
#41






Elyssa wrote:


I'm not even gonna open the Pandora's Box of "Rabbit & Duck Hoarding" because my head might explode.





Oh Now i am involved..... Do to strict NDA I could not discuss this but since someone else brought it up... this right here is the number 1 and Only Issue holding Us Back....





Imaka QuHurl

Im Not Dead Yet Careful I bite

Heed the warning

Talon001
Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:49 am
#42






Pawlin wrote:

Nerfer: /sigh


Swapper: /whipser Ya its sad.


Nerfer: /whisper So ... ya wanna go back to my place? /wink


Swapper: /whisper ... Sure why not. /smile


** Nerfer and Swapper walk off into the sunset holding hands **







**Pawlin awakes from this nightmere of people agreeing**



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Etori1
Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:14 am
#43

Okay,


I myself am a dedicated Architect and shipwrite. I have and always will be a combat level 1 and have learned to live with it.

for the records I have never lot swapped and appose it. what I would like to bring to peoples attention is the degree of the problem. we see these players as just trying to drive the SWG market and rake as much in as possible for thier own toon's benefit.. NOT.. most of the serious lot swappers the ones that own the fields upon fields of harvesters are doing it to sellthe credits made in RLF.. for example go to some web sites on star wars galaxies and you will find adds to buy 5 mill, 10mil, 20mil credits for a set price.. these people are hindering our enjoyment of the game and making money off of us!


you would be able to eliminate some of the lot swapers by making it so you need a certian profession (or all the advanced profs that craft) to be able to use the harvesters. maybe leave it so a artisan can handle 4 personal harvesters at the max, to get more lots open and get access to larger harveters you need to advance further into the advanced profs. It would be allot more difficult to convincea playerto stat a character in thier server.. spend time to advance this character to a advanced prof just so he could give his lots away.
Okitaa
Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:49 am
#44

Yeah but what if you are like me? You have two characters a fighter and a crafter. I'd feel like lots were going to waste on my fighter



Okita
Aeschyl + Okita = Perfect
I love you Greg
Brandonharville
Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:29 pm
#45


I am a long time the game and Jedi is pretty unreachable for me unless I am willing to give up my crafting template. Don’t get me wrong, I do like the interactivity the CU brought to fighting but, it has pretty much made it impossible for crafters to get around let alone work toward Jedi. Before the CU as a crafter I could get a buff and at some level participate in fighting, especially in a group where I had the advantages of numbers. Now I can hardly get to my factories without getting incaped. Then there's matter of force points.With the current exp trade values I have to craft tons! literally tons! of goods just to get a few points. Not only large numbers, but this all has to be done by hand to get XP. Is there currently any discussion about changing the values to help crafters make it to the same force point level of fighters? Also is there any discussion about giving crafters a way to get close to par on fighting ability without abandoning the crafting that we love?


This brings me to another point. Market flooding. Due to hedge numbers of products being crafted for XP to trade in the market is flooded with products, and the products are being used less and less with every patch. This about how many resources where taken out of the market before CU for healing alone. There were stim packs and buffs consuming hedge amounts of animal products. Now there are twice as many fighters gathering at the same time not using and of what they gather. This hurts BE's Doc's and Chef's. I don’t craft in these areas nor would I want too with the current levels of flooding, it would be impossible to turn a profit. Look at the current amounts of food, hides, and meats on the Bazaar alone. The bottom has fallen out of the market completely.


Now the only big consumables in the game are swoops, and armor. Weapons are looted left and right, ships never destroy, furniture lasts forever, building too, and with free heals and buffs ppl die less which equals less decay of clothes, armor, and weapons. Furthermore what is the point of droid engineer? Its not that I hate crafting, quite the opposite. The problem is the current state, and my not knowing what is being done to address these issues. There are still tons of useless items in crafting trees. Many of us already got burned on the "enhancer" upgrade (lol). Is there discussion of focusing some effort on fixing the game for the other third of us that are crafters?


In current state the world is bleak for crafters. I need force points, so I craft (by hand). Now I have a ton of goods, so I sell. Everyone else is doing the same, so much competition, and no sweat. Except for every good I create I am competing against the last good I and everyone else created because nothing ever destroys or leaves the game. Prices inflate to compensate and my stock room fills. Well that’s it we are here. My stock room is overflowing where I spend most of my time restocking and stuffing stuff in pigeon holes. I browse the bazaar trying to find a way to corner the swoop market to turn a profit. I might get lucky and find a newb who has undervalued his resources, or perhaps a crafter who has given up and is having a going out of business sale. With all this who has time to survey for Jedi XP?



-PotatoX


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Pawlin
Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:06 pm
#46






Brandonharville wrote:


... Furthermore what is the point of droid engineer? ...








EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!


Its Droid Engineer season!!




Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Brandonharville
Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:37 pm
#47

Thanks you for the suppot, but plz give me some feed back on this situation. Am I alone in this? We need to bring serious debate to this problem before crafting becomes a joke and markets of goods become markets of loot. What can we do about this problem? plz help? who do we email... where do we post? I see very little consideration in development for crafters.
Pawlin
Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:47 pm
#48

/whisper this is absoluely NOT the thread for serious debate. In fact this thread is 100% anti-serious. If you want a serious discussion, then start another thread.


/scream WEAPONSMITH SeASON!!!






Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Okitaa
Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:35 pm
#49

All crafting is in a bad state of affairs I feel.


With ADK put in the game and weapons that are BETTER than anyone can craft....whats the point of a weaponsmith?


And...now that not everyone is certified for armor....noobs don't buy it...


TKs don't wear it..../sigh


DE...yeah..../sigh


Chef. Artisan food better than chef food....


bah...its useless


/giveup




Okita
Aeschyl + Okita = Perfect
I love you Greg
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