Architect Archive

Thread: Sign a petition for a much needed structure

Shiba
Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:11 am
#14

Fulminata


I am a Master Creature Handler who has been told by a holocron that I need to master Architect to help me towards opening my FS slot. I cannot believe that you do not wish this proposal to go ahead because you believe CH's to be the main obstacle towards combat balance.


Not only are you preventing expansion of the class you play you are also displaying extreme ignorance towards the class of Creature Handler. I suggest you take a trip to the force caves and take a long hard look at BH's and Commando's then come back and tell me its the CH's who are out of balance.


It is a very narrow minded person who limits the abilities of their own class through 'class envy' of another!




Dance or dance not! - without there is no FS

1st Holo - Master Architect, 2nd Holo - Silent

The Ancients have fallen out with me!!!
LordTigris
Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:44 pm
#15






Shiba wrote:

Fulminata


I am a Master Creature Handler who has been told by a holocron that I need to master Architect to help me towards opening my FS slot. I cannot believe that you do not wish this proposal to go ahead because you believe CH's to be the main obstacle towards combat balance.


Not only are you preventing expansion of the class you play you are also displaying extreme ignorance towards the class of Creature Handler. I suggest you take a trip to the force caves and take a long hard look at BH's and Commando's then come back and tell me its the CH's who are out of balance.


It is a very narrow minded person who limits the abilities of their own class through 'class envy' of another!







Your assuming that I would promote a building for BH's or Commando's either?? While we are at it, why not support a garage where an imperial can store his 80 AT-ST's?? I will not support any class perk if the perk does not fix the functionality and life of this class. It is time wasted on something we do not need as an architech rather than what we do need, which is long-term viability. Even adding all of the city structures to architech won't fix the long term drought we are going to experience. We need a way to sell product, not a slightly bigger product line that will last a week.


This is not about class envy, this is about architects lasting as a class for the next 12 months. And on a side note, I run characters on multiple servers with class combos that include architect, miner(not an official class, I know), artisan, tailor, chef, musician, dancer, brawler, fencer, marksman, pistoleer, CH, BH, ranger, scout and medic. I consider myself pretty informed on most classes. Since you are basically just following a Holocron, which I assume you got because you are a CH, I don't see how you can possible lecture me on Architect issues.

LordTigris
Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:48 pm
#16






Ropock wrote:
My only questions is would this be a CH only building? or could it be placed by anyone? Heck this has a ton of potential..... just make it usable by anyone and you remove the CH advantage.




I like the idea of a universal building, like a zoo. Possible we can get the devs to consider a zoo as a city schematic in the same class as gardens. Then people can donate animals to the cages and maybe even the xoo can increase in size too. Kinda like a mini city that the mayor can appoint a currator for. Then maybe a museum, or art gallery. Cities should be more than functional, they should be places of wonder to visit or live as well. A place of tourism, commerce, and life that we cannot have in the NPC's cities.
Shiba
Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:17 am
#17

What I posted could fit any class that says I aint doing this because it helps another class.


I am having to drop CH to become an architect, so yes I think it does concern me as to what happens to the class. Another point is I wasn't telling you to personally do anything, you just seem to like to see your name 10+ times in one thread :-)




Dance or dance not! - without there is no FS

1st Holo - Master Architect, 2nd Holo - Silent

The Ancients have fallen out with me!!!
LordTigris
Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:43 am
#18






Shiba wrote:

What I posted could fit any class that says I aint doing this because it helps another class.


I am having to drop CH to become an architect, so yes I think it does concern me as to what happens to the class. Another point is I wasn't telling you to personally do anything, you just seem to like to see your name 10+ times in one thread :-)







See, you totally missed the point. I said I won't support it because it doesn't help this class. I also said that I won't support devs spending time on architect items for other classes before they fix architects. You can distort my words to your meaning all you want, but you are still wrong. I hope the red highlights help you to understand.


I'm really sorry you have to drop CH to chase a FS, but I'm sure as soon as you master architect and get another holocron you'll just be droppingarchitect nextforanother profession. I'll consider informed comments/ideas from other architects. I'll even consider inane comments/ideas from the long standing members of this forum, but from transients, not likely.

Jarhead2
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:42 am
#19

Well maybe you will listen to a master architect/master Creature handler This is a really kewl Idea ecause it would promote creature handlers to get out and fid more exotic pets than the usuall rancor and gurrek. I would love to show off some of my more rare creatures in a zoo connected to my house and also this would benifit architect with all of the CH out there. As far as the CH being unbalanced u definatly need to become a master CH for a while because most people who actually master the profession can tell you that being a master CH is a definate disadvantage on the battlefield with master Commandos and BH who dabble with the Ch profession enough to do massive amounts of damage and that not counting if they Have at-st's and other faction pets. The real harm of all the CH nerfs happen to the people who actually enjoy the class and dont use it to have glorified meat shields. Anyway I got off the point I think this is a cool idea and support it 100%



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LordTigris
Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:45 pm
#20






Jarhead2 wrote:
Well maybe you will listen to a master architect/master Creature handler This is a really kewl Idea ecause it would promote creature handlers to get out and fid more exotic pets than the usuall rancor and gurrek. I would love to show off some of my more rare creatures in a zoo connected to my house and also this would benifit architect with all of the CH out there. As far as the CH being unbalanced u definatly need to become a master CH for a while because most people who actually master the profession can tell you that being a master CH is a definate disadvantage on the battlefield with master Commandos and BH who dabble with the Ch profession enough to do massive amounts of damage and that not counting if they Have at-st's and other faction pets. The real harm of all the CH nerfs happen to the people who actually enjoy the class and dont use it to have glorified meat shields. Anyway I got off the point I think this is a cool idea and support it 100%




/sigh Did I not list Commandos, Bounty Hunters and Creature Handlers in the same boat already. Again, my interest is in the devs fixing the long term stability of the architect profession. Until they do that, I do not want them wasting time on a building for a CH so they can tame their own furnishings and need architects even less than they do now. Once architect is fixed, I would happily reconsider my position, but since a) the profession being fixed is unlikely and b) the devs could care less what we think, this whole thread is just another exercise in futility.
tiberian_death
Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:54 pm
#21

I think we are getting enough new structues for player cities. I would rather them come up with a few more styles in houses and a lot more furniture schematics oh and increase medium houses to hold 200 items, that would make furniture selling even better and encourage people to move to a medium over a small.


Maller Malice


Master Architect




Maller Malice
Former Mayor of New Aldera
Selling Loot, Meat and Resources south of Cnet at 364, -5476, vendor named Loot, Meat, and Resources.
LordTigris
Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:17 am
#22






Shiba wrote:

Jarhead


I think you are wasting your breath with this one. They guy is so full of himself it frightening. If hishead was any further up his own ass he would be able to roll






Pot calling the kettle balck Shiba. Hurry up and move on. =P
Shiba
Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:57 pm
#23

Jarhead


I think you are wasting your breath with this one. They guy is so full of himself it frightening. If hishead was any further up his own ass he would be able to roll




Dance or dance not! - without there is no FS

1st Holo - Master Architect, 2nd Holo - Silent

The Ancients have fallen out with me!!!
Hypnosia
Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:39 pm
#24

/sign for Zoo


/not sign for Kennel



like player cities, this idea will not make most architects have anything to do for more than 5-10 days, after all the kennels/zoo/player citiesare sold, once again we as architects are stuck with nothing to do, not to mention that such kennels will be blocking even more 'flat' surfaces to place harvesters.


i will agree to the zoo if only that once creatures are put in the zoo, they will become an item and have no commands.


about BH and Commandos, what is BH and Commando's favourite partner class? CH because they can get a pet to tank. same goes for all other fighting classes. even a rock beetle is better than not having a pet at all.



until they give us furniture colors and z-axis furniture movement. this is a 100% no.


p.s. the "master architect" above. if u are to retort by citing you are a master architect, at least spell architect properly. then perhaps it might give you credability.




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Hypnosia
Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:43 pm
#25






Hypnosia wrote:

p.s. the "master architect" above. if u are to retort by citing you are a master architect, at least spell architect properly. then perhaps it might give you credability.






my bad.



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Ravnos Del-Lupo - Almost Novice Squad Leader, Novice Carbineer

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