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I have 4 BER 14 heavies(out of 17 in my inventory), but they were a glitch, I believe. I have never been able to make one since the last patch, using the same materials and getting the same experimentation results

Wish we could get a single post with this info stickied.

The current MAX rates are:

personal - 4

wind - 9

medium - 10

solar - 8

heavy - 13

fusion - 14

I had heard 14's were possible with structure experimentation tapes?

Find a master and a tape, have them try it, and if they succeed please post here. We've had a lot of 3rd hand speculation.

Structure Experimentaiton tapes won't help you make higher extraction rate heavies.

Assuming all great successes on experimentation, any master architect has enough experimentation points to 'max out' the extraction experimentation line.

And maxxing out that line will result in BER 13 heavies, assuming you started with BER 6 rate mining units.

All tapes will basically give you is large hoppers. But considering the default hopper size on a Heavy is large enough to hold theresources on an 85% spot left alone for a week, getting the hopper bigger isn't high on my priority list either

-Jubey, Master Architect

i've gotten 13s on regular heavies and tahts at 98%

the only thing i've gotten 14 on is a fusion

Tapes won't help in the normal course of events - but they theoretically could if you were very lucky.

Normal Masters have 10 experimentation points to play with - and a +10 tape (or collection of tapes that add to +10) will give you an extra point taking your total to 11. But even with the best resources you only have 10 slots to use them in.....unless you get a run of Amazing Successes during experimentation. But I believe that the only way the run could give you an extra slot to use your additional point in is to do all ten individually and get an nothing less then a great success for each one (you loose a slot for each moderate success and 3 for each crit fail), and then an amazing success for the last two (or maybe one). But this would have to work for both the Ore Mining Unit - to push it too Base 7, and on the final construction (ie, get over 95%).

I think it would be hard to do but not impossible.

BER 14 on anything other then fusions at this time is not possible. I have done extend research into this since the mount/player cities patch have gone live. Using the best possible resources from everything, that’s everything Structural Module, 98% experimental durable walls, 98% Ore Mineing units/Turbo Fluidic Drilling Pump/Harvesting mechanism, Small structure storage Module and Generator Turbine, even with that with the final Experimental efficiency at 98% it was only a BER 13. The only thing that changed from using less Material on those parts was that starting BER was lower and took more Experiment points to reach a BER 13. It may seem possible, but till 1000 or maybe 995+ in all three (UT, SR, HR) for its just isn’t possible way things are setup now. There might be some out there that claim that they have them, and they might, but I have found one person who can duplicate or was willing to post the stats of the Materials that they have used.