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Thread: New Player question

laodamas
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:20 am
#14

Depending on the amount of time you can play, it should go like this.


1) Fastest way and cheapest to get the 6 village phases done is through combat. Couple of high damage profs like rifle/swords/tk. Can easily cap xp in 2 high damage profs per buff set. Using grenades makes faster xp but can get expensive.


2) Should be able to master 2 of these profs in 1-2 weeks depending on your playtime. Add another 1-2 weeks to get glowie, have the old man visit and start the village quests.


3) At 1 buff set per weekday and 2 per day on weekends, you should make 18 mill weapons xp per week. You will need approx. 200 mill weapons xp to complete the village. It will take a minimum 15 weeks for the village to phase shift to unlock all 6 so you can grind out xp faster than village.


4) The village exit quest and padawan trials will only take a couple days, at which point you are a Jedi Padawan.


So thats about 18-20 weeks assuming you play 1 buff set on weekdays 2 on weekends.


5) Then grind out like 36 mill or so jedi xp to get your template. Too many variables here to give a good timeframe. But 3-4 months if you are a casual player.


All told, stay dedicated and you could have a completed Jedi in about 10 months, less if you grind hard once you get jedi.


Hope this doesn't scare you off, but Jedi is a time consuming path and definately not for everyone.




Laodamas Odysseus - Elder Jedi
Helios Odysseus - Elder Master Bounty Hunter
Dionysos Odysseus - Master Weaponsmith/Master Armorsmith
Drop off's at Odysseus Loot Vendor @ /waypoint 1562 1708 Keren, Naboo
kanezfan
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:33 am
#15

Oh yeah, I almost forgot one thing, do you have to play PvP as a Jedi? Can you switch from PvP or to PvP at any time or is it a character creation decision?

Thanks!






Oanin Easra, Gorath, CL90 NGE Jedi, noob all around.

Talenn Jace, Bria, CL90 respec Jedi, former TKA, Not so Noobish all around

Should I grind a new Jedi to 90 again since that's all there is to do SOE?

Yes I'm a respec and an NGE Jedi. Yes, I hate NGE. Yes I agree, pre-CU FTW!

SoUWannaBAJedi
Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:55 am
#16

Well, perma-death is not around anymore. If you get killed by a BH, you lose a certain amount of xp. If you get killed by a BH and clone (i.e. a doc doesn't come revive you) you lose much more xp.


As for PvP, you can choose to do it just like ay other profession. You can /duel anyone willing to accept, or you can go rebel or imp, and go overt...and fight any other overts you meet from opposing factions.


I strongly encourage you to read the stickies in the force sensitive forum, they have a LOT of info there that will help you understand better.
kanezfan
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:44 am
#17

Do I lose XP that I've already used to increase levels, or do I just lose XP that hasn't been "cashed in" yet? I know I should read all the stickies, I just have a lot of noob questions lol. You just made me think of another one I can choose to reject a PvP fight? I'm going to go Rebel for sure, I have the choice to not fight if someone comes after me?

You guys are great, thanks for answering my questions.






Oanin Easra, Gorath, CL90 NGE Jedi, noob all around.

Talenn Jace, Bria, CL90 respec Jedi, former TKA, Not so Noobish all around

Should I grind a new Jedi to 90 again since that's all there is to do SOE?

Yes I'm a respec and an NGE Jedi. Yes, I hate NGE. Yes I agree, pre-CU FTW!

WookieOgre
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:51 am
#18






kanezfan wrote:
Do I lose XP that I've already used to increase levels, or do I just lose XP that hasn't been "cashed in" yet? I know I should read all the stickies, I just have a lot of noob questions lol. You just made me think of another one I can choose to reject a PvP fight? I'm going to go Rebel for sure, I have the choice to not fight if someone comes after me?

You guys are great, thanks for answering my questions.




You don't lose skill boxes already trained in however you can go into -10 mill xp hole.


And sorry to say you have no choice to fight as a Jedi. If a BH has a mission on you, your options are:


1) Run (or try) to a safe house


2) Fight, kill the BH but you will still be hunted as this does not remove you from the terimals.


3) Fight, die. Loose xp, but you are off the terimals until you do something to get back on again.


4) Make friends with the BH by paying him off. **must warn you some BH's will take the money and still kill you lol**


Jedi is a PvP class. Now that doesn't mean you can't use your Jedifor PvE, it just means you have to be prepared at ANY time to engage in PvP.


kanezfan
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:53 am
#19

I like that. Bring it on... I'm planning on becoming the most bad-ass Jedi ever.






Oanin Easra, Gorath, CL90 NGE Jedi, noob all around.

Talenn Jace, Bria, CL90 respec Jedi, former TKA, Not so Noobish all around

Should I grind a new Jedi to 90 again since that's all there is to do SOE?

Yes I'm a respec and an NGE Jedi. Yes, I hate NGE. Yes I agree, pre-CU FTW!

Vcardossk
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:57 am
#20



kanezfan wrote:
I like that. Bring it on... I'm planning on becoming the most bad-ass Jedi ever.





Hehe just wait till u get some bh death without cloneing. Real pains/shrug.



Cardossk- "Why die now when you can kill them later?"
Mylako- "I kill only when i'm paid. And since No one's paid me to kill you yet, sleep tight."
JediMaster754
Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:41 pm
#21

Ok my friend, here are my 2 cents about grinding/templates/stuff. For starters, I got all my xp in 5 days. The worst way to do it is with weapons xp. That transfers to FS xp at 30:1! While combat xp transfers at 3:1. If you use grenades, you get combat xp. That means that you transfer at a higher rate, therefore speading it up. Get commando 4000. It will allow you to use the 2nd most powerfull grenades, thermal detonaters. Then, once you have the detonaters, get into a HUGE solo group(this increases spawns). Next get some buffs, high percent composite armer, a few crates of thermal detonaters, and a weapon of choice(i suggest tkm, i think it is the best for jedi). Take a shuttle to dathomir and go to the mission termal. Look for giant baz nitches, and get to missions for them. When you get there, start punching the lair(dont use specials). Wait until at least 5 spawn and are attacking you. Then target the lair and start throwing thermals. Do this until all the baz nitches are dead, then start puntching the lair until 5 more come out. repeat the process for hte next 5(NOTE:if there is one left or one spawns randomally, kill it with ur weapon of choice instead of wasting time and thermals on it)after doign this twice, kill the lair with ur weapon of choice, then head over to the next Lair, get 2 more missions, repeat the process. Do this until you mass out combat xp, then head over to the village and transfer teh xp. I usually am able to max out 3-5 times a buff session, resorting in 300k-500k fs xp in 1 buff session! That is the fastest way to grind enhanced reflexes or combat prowess xp. For grinding Crafting Mastery, i suggest Master Artisan. Build speeder bikes for 1600 xp a bike. For Heightened senses xp, i suggest doctor 0400. With 0400 you can run a macro called a rezing macro. You get 700 medical xp a rez, so get a friend and run a rezing macro where you duel him, kill him, db him, revive him, duel him, db him, revive him... resulting in fast medical xp. This transfers 10:1 however, so you should be doing this outside the fog if they are not fs, or right next to pameos(inside the village) if they are FS.

Please note that all of these ways are VERY expensive. Thermals are about 100k a crate, you need 17000 rez packs for a branch, and you need about 2 mill resources for a branch. Ill include info on templates and such in the next reply.

JediMaster754
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:24 pm
#22

You dont chose to be a jedi as your first profession. I suggest picking brawler as your first profession. Get brawler 4000 then master teras kasi. I suggest you get novice teras kasi and then do missions on dantooine if you need credits, or head over to squill cave if you are looking for xp. Either way is good xp, Squill cave is much faster xp, however you will gain no credits(if you are scout you will get a ton of xp/resources harvesting resources though:smileywink. After that get the following badges:

Jabbas theme park(while on tatooine click control d, go to poi, click on jabbas palace and activate it. Head over to his palace. A themepark is where you do missions for many npcs and get a badge at the end of it. If you have question ask the people there. In the event where you are told to go talk to someone and bring them back, you can just talk to them then come back, you do NOT need to escort them back. In the event where you are told to talk to someone and they attack you, run away, make a macro for conversing, and burst run while targeting them and running the macro, it will USUALLY work. If you are told to go talk to someone and there is no one at the waypoint, odds are someone killed them and just go back and fail the mission and get it again.)

Imperial/reble theme park(depending on if your imperial or reble)

2 warren badges(found on dantooine, examine the guides carefully, as there are many many glitches here and you may be able to avoid some of them)

nyms theme park(found on lok, have buffs as some of the misison will requre it, it is very short as there are 3 people with like 1-3 missions each)


You also need poi badges(get these by visiting certain locations):

Ben Kanobis house(found on tatooine, find it the same way you found jabbas palace)

Ancient Krayt dragon graveyard(when in the graveyard, WATCH OUT, i am a professional krayt hunter and they die to me easily. If you are not buffedu willl die and your speeder will be desotried in 1 hit!!!!!!! look on radar, if you see nything con red, look into it with tab before blindly chargin after it. Just an fyi, krayts have 300k health/action/mind, and attack for 1000 almsot rapidly. You need swordsman/medic to kill one, or force powers master, animal calm/scare anyone)

The jedi temple on dantooine

Exar kun's temple on yavin 4

The salacc pit on tatooine

the poolin the caves of fort tuskin(be buffed or make sure there are a lot of people there or u will probally die)

The lesser sarlacc on Dathomir

Youalso need 5 other poi badges(these can be any other 5)

Another nessary thing is 1 profession badge(gained from mastering a profession, as i said i suggst teras kasi master)

after this when you press /check it will say "you feel an inner glow. The force is with you". After about 3 days, an old man will spawn. Talk to him and he will give you a force crystal(this acts as you quest log). About 3 days later, 2 sith shawdow will attack. Kill them both then loot them, you should loot a holocron from one, activate it and it will activate the waypoint of a camp of sith not far from there. Go there and kill them all, then loot them and you should loot another from one. It will give you the waypoint of the village on dathomir, go there. Talk to people there and you then need to unlock/train 6 fs branches from the 4 new skills you get(24 boxes in total). I suggest Combat prowess 0044 Enhanced reflexes 4400 Crafting MAstery 0040 Heightened senses 0004. You can unlock 1 branch every 3 weeks, therefore meaning at the very minium it will take you 18 weeks to get jedi. After that the old man will spawn for you again telling you you have to kill mallche, the leader of the sith shadow. He is no pushover, but after you kill him, You start the Padawn trials. Check the jedi/force sensitive fourms for more information about this/what happens after this.

JediMaster754
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:26 pm
#23

I suggest you become a jedi on my server. Im on quite often to help you/buff you if you need it. Im on the naritus server. My characters names are Olie and Morpheous.

laodamas
Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:36 pm
#24

I suggested weapons xp as the cheapest way to go. With the solo group nerf, a new playerwho just wants to grind to jedi fast will not have or be able to raise the credits to buy piles of resources to do it by other methods. Grenades are a pain in the ass to make and are expensive to buy when you can find them. At least on intrepid anyway.




Laodamas Odysseus - Elder Jedi
Helios Odysseus - Elder Master Bounty Hunter
Dionysos Odysseus - Master Weaponsmith/Master Armorsmith
Drop off's at Odysseus Loot Vendor @ /waypoint 1562 1708 Keren, Naboo
kanezfan
Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:32 am
#25

I started as a brawler, figured it was the closest thing to a Jedi. I chose the pole to fight with. Grind is the appropriate word. I can't stand dying to freaking butterflies >:






Oanin Easra, Gorath, CL90 NGE Jedi, noob all around.

Talenn Jace, Bria, CL90 respec Jedi, former TKA, Not so Noobish all around

Should I grind a new Jedi to 90 again since that's all there is to do SOE?

Yes I'm a respec and an NGE Jedi. Yes, I hate NGE. Yes I agree, pre-CU FTW!

Axuss
Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:09 am
#26






SoUWannaBAJedi wrote:

Well, perma-death is not around anymore. If you get killed by a BH, you lose a certain amount of xp. If you get killed by a BH and clone (i.e. a doc doesn't come revive you) you lose much more xp.


As for PvP, you can choose to do it just like ay other profession. You can /duel anyone willing to accept, or you can go rebel or imp, and go overt...and fight any other overts you meet from opposing factions.


I strongly encourage you to read the stickies in the force sensitive forum, they have a LOT of info there that will help you understand better.





You only get to choose if you're a padawan.


If you want to be a GOOD Jedi, you'll go knight, in which case you're always overt.


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