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Thread: 10% XP with Factory produced items

Knocky
Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:49 pm
#1

If you are going to steal 90% of my XP, then stop requiring Identical items.


I would rather hand craft and actually get my cert in Master Architect some time this year,then have a factory make identical items yet give my next to nothing for XP.


Choose one or the other DEVS. Either take my XP with a Factory or have structures require identical parts. Stop demanding both, please!

TheBigBagel
Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:54 pm
#2

Unless this is new i always got 100% exp from manually crafting to usinga factory.



I've tested this only with structural items however. Including bricks.


Betatoxin
Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:59 pm
#3

Currently AFAIK you get 100%.

Having said that I made master before I even really used a factory. (made only 1 lvl, buildings IV with a factory trying to make heaviy mineral extractors). Better to use those factory slots for two mediums or a couple solars than a factory to make the resources to lvl IMO.
Cyberthugg
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:05 pm
#4

IMO Crafters shouldn't even be dealign with factories other than to sell them to manufacturers. Originally before the game plan was setup there was talk of one person to find the materials, another to get them out of the ground, a third to process the materials into usable resources, a 4th to make schematics to use those materials, a 5th to use those schematics to make the items and a 6th to take those items and sell them on the market...... unfortunately each crafting class can do the entire process by themselves. I wish they would do some seperation it would definatetly stablizie prices soemwhat

Knocky
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:07 pm
#5

There was what I can only describe as a stealth nerf tonight. I have confirmed with a Doc using a Chemical factory that he tell is only getting 10% of the normal XP.



I am currently sitting in front of my Structure Factory getting 50 XP per Structure modual, will hand crafting the same item and getting 500 for the hand crafted one.

WICK12345
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:13 pm
#6

that's not a nerf guys. It was that way in beta. I /bugged it long day 2 of release. You are never meant to get 100%. In beta they had that and the amount of xp was 5 tiems less. there must have been a million architects. Then they changed it to 10% but somehow for release it got put back up to 100%. Thye may have done that to let us level faster to get the econ rolling I don't know but as the others said I perfer hand crafting for xp. I only use factories now b/c I don't need the XP. I just set it up to build 500 structure mods for the night and go to bed



-WICK-
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Knocky
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:13 pm
#7

My run of items has just finished. Instead of 13,000 XP, I only got 1,300.


Thank you Devs. I apprieciate the curtesy you show usbynottelling us about your nerfs. I need about 30,000 more XP to get Building IV.Instead ofgettingalmost getting half of that for my Cert. I am now still 29,000 away.


Again, Thank you.

Knocky
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:21 pm
#8






WICK12345 wrote:
I only use factories now b/c I don't need the XP. I just set it up to build 500 structure mods for the night and go to bed





That is nice for you.


I have structures which need identical parts.


I HAVE to use a factory.

Rath
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:27 pm
#9

In some respects I agree with you Knocky, but eventually it'll be a non-issue because you'll have your master. I think it's probably better this way because that way someone couldn't get 563000 ore and 140800 metal throw it in a factory and be master arch in a day.



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Zephyr40k
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:27 pm
#10

Great... just great. And I was just a few hours from making my first factory. Now there's no point. But maybe that's the point.


I wish the devswould be CONSISTENT. I like this game, but I used to love it. AND... stealth nerfs are really annoying.. as in "let's hope they dont notice..." It's pretty condescending of the devs. Either that or cowardly.




Rath
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:34 pm
#11

Well it was always suppose to be 10% XP. Hell in beta I said it should be 0% XP, you shouldn't be able to level off of a factory doing the work for you. I love this line though:


Zephyr40k wrote:
I like this game, but I used to love it.




The use of the past tense here is great. The game has been out just a month now and he uses 'used to'. I love it.



Oh I'm going to throw out a compromise here Knocky.


How about leave the factory XP at 10%, but when you do the final combine you get the other 90% of the XP for the identical items.






Drase Rancor - Rodian
RETIRED Master Architect --- 8/1/03 - 9/15/03
Master Weaponsmith

DrasTek Weapons: Quality At Its Finest
Just 900 m North of Coronet in Kor Mesa! Corellia -240 -3205
Now on Talus, South of Dearic! 50 -4000
Knocky
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:41 pm
#12






Rath wrote:

Oh I'm going to throw out a compromise here Knocky.


How about leave the factory XP at 10%, but when you do the final combine you get the other 90% of the XP for the identical items.









That would be great...if you were a Dev.


I doubt they seek to compromise with those of us who are hurting from this.

Rath
Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:43 pm
#13






Knocky wrote:





Rath wrote:

Oh I'm going to throw out a compromise here Knocky.


How about leave the factory XP at 10%, but when you do the final combine you get the other 90% of the XP for the identical items.









That would be great...if you were a Dev.


I doubt they seek to compromise with those of us who are hurting from this.






Well maybe we can get Zarcath to give this idea to the Devs so they can bounce it around.



Drase Rancor - Rodian
RETIRED Master Architect --- 8/1/03 - 9/15/03
Master Weaponsmith

DrasTek Weapons: Quality At Its Finest
Just 900 m North of Coronet in Kor Mesa! Corellia -240 -3205
Now on Talus, South of Dearic! 50 -4000
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