Architect Archive
Thread: How are your sales since the Galaxy Search?
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cosno
Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:26 pm
#1
Things are going slow.
People are selling houses for under 1.5 CPU - I can't compete with that. The market is flodded.
To me 1.5 CPU is not worth my time.
BER13's for 65-75k on the low end. Lots of BER12 BER11 Heavies at cheap prices. Even BER8 and BER9 mediums.
The funniest I saw was 10k for a BER2 Personal - and the guy has factory runs of those - lmao.
Anyway - business is not good and I refuse to lower prices at this time. Might chnage tomorrow.
Freud
Dazzydoodle
Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:16 pm
#2
Too soon to really say, but....
I used to have a large sale of furniture to one person every week or two. Price wise, my stuff is in the middle.
So far, I've had increase on peaple buying 1-2 items.
Factories are moving a little better in the past week, and and increase of guild halls (ie I sold the one on the vendor off the vendor, as opposed to someone asking for one. Before, I *only* sold halls fraom /tells or emails)
Increase in fish sales.
Large / Medium houses, I haven't done a price check, but those moved slowly anyway.
Ask again in a month - but I think I'll have to lower furniture prices fo 500cr to keep competitive, when 2k went wonderfully from bazaar and vendor.
I used to have a large sale of furniture to one person every week or two. Price wise, my stuff is in the middle.
So far, I've had increase on peaple buying 1-2 items.
Factories are moving a little better in the past week, and and increase of guild halls (ie I sold the one on the vendor off the vendor, as opposed to someone asking for one. Before, I *only* sold halls fraom /tells or emails)
Increase in fish sales.
Large / Medium houses, I haven't done a price check, but those moved slowly anyway.
Ask again in a month - but I think I'll have to lower furniture prices fo 500cr to keep competitive, when 2k went wonderfully from bazaar and vendor.
Crimsonsplat
Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:53 pm
#3
I've sold about a dozen small tat houses, one guild hall, and one decoration, plus a special order that I already had (16.5k) is waiting for pickup. Total sales: @ 310k in 4 days.
No, I'm not breaking even. Estimate roughly two weeks, max,to the harvs being out of money, assuming I buy nothing more.
Neutronboy
Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:17 am
#4
I haven't sold anything since patch 
Maybe cause in Bria a guy is selling harvesters and houses for 1.5 cpu, I can't nor want to compete with that, not worth my time.
Maybe cause in Bria a guy is selling harvesters and houses for 1.5 cpu, I can't nor want to compete with that, not worth my time.
Ulrick
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:59 am
#5
I just got to Master Architect about 3 weeks before the search went live so I don't have too much to compare to. I'm priced pretty competitive for Lowca's market, maybe on the lower end on a few items but not because I'm trying to undercut anyone, just trying to figure out where to play in the market.
Sales are pretty steady for me - lighting is a big seller and furniture okay. I've noticed that factories seem to be moving better now than before the search but otherwise, no major changes. There aren't an abundance of Architects on Lowca anyway so that may be why it's staying pretty steady - slow, but steady.
Sales are pretty steady for me - lighting is a big seller and furniture okay. I've noticed that factories seem to be moving better now than before the search but otherwise, no major changes. There aren't an abundance of Architects on Lowca anyway so that may be why it's staying pretty steady - slow, but steady.
Message Edited by Ulrick on 03-28-2005 12:59 PM
Smart_Darwin
Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:21 am
#6
My sales have dropped considerably. Usually Friday, Saturday and Sunday are red letter daysfor my vendors. I spend much of the week re-stocking for the comming weekends. This was not the case this past weekend.
My furniture sales have dropped considerably. I have heard that my prices are too steep, but only from one guy... and he did not strike me as intelligent enough to have conducted a galaxy-wide search. No one else has indicated that my prices are too high, but they probably are... my selling point was having a well stocked vendor, but now that's not so relevant. Maybe I will change the names of my furniture so that is starts with the letter "A": A metal chair, A potted tree, etc.
My house sales were down for a bit, again my prices are not dirt-cheap (10k for small). Unexpectedly before saturday was out, someone bought about half my inventory of these, so... who knows?
I guess that's the bottom line. I have no idea whether to attribute my slow sales to the GWVS, or to other factors... I will give it another few weeks before I decide to lower prices, or go out of business (I'm probably not gonna lower prices).
Crimsonsplat
Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:34 am
#7
I don't know if using the "A" trick is worthwhile. It looks like the bazarr terminals just sort any which way, and the same items show up on page after page. Who knows? Items I put up hours before don't show.
Stamenflicker
Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:39 am
#8
My sales went up this week. I sold three guild halls, several mediums houses, factories, and harvestors. Most of that was within 48 hours of the patch, then things slowed down. I know what you are thinking, to get that kind of business I had to have been low-balling, and maybe I was.
But I buy my resources for 1cpu, sometimes 2cpu, except for that which is neededto makeharvesters. Ore is easy to find that cheap, iron orother metals are to. So my architect calculator says it takes about 60k in resources to make a guild hall, plus factory maintence, etc. If I sell for 250k then I still double my investment. Most architects sell them on my server for 350k. If I mine my own resources on a good hole, I can get them for less than 1cpu and make even more. I don't think my prices in and of themselves are too low.
Here's the real problem: With an ever decreasing demand for housing (i.e. people leaving the game & those staying having structures that NEVER DECAY we basically become all but useless. This is going to get worse, not better for the architect.
I go through a good VK about every week, maybe a bit longer if I repair it like I should. I go through armor even quicker because I don't always repair it as I should. WS and AS have a never-ending supply of business (for the most part) because people are always grinding something and need to replace their items. Not so for us. The more we sell now, the less we will sell down the road. That is the nature of our business, and it's why I'm dropping architect soon and just eating the 4+ million credit investment it took to get here. Architect is easy to master-- if you are rich. It's harder to stay rich as an architect too. I'm sure this is covered in other threads.
Speaking of grinding, the 35:1 trade ratio for Force Sensitive crafting for architects is absolutely 100% insane. I calculated it would cost me 22 million credits at 1cpu to fill one tree. The xp needed here is equivilant to mastering architect more than 20 times. Unlike a combat tree where I can run out and max my xp on a set a buffs, the crafting line is notoriously expensive for the architect. I imagine I just won't be doing a FS crafting tree, because quite frankly I can't come close to affording it.
Stamen
Corso
Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:11 pm
#9
1st day the search went live
3 factories, 2 small houses, 10 pieces of furniture
Total income: 247,500c
2nd day
No sales
3rd day
2 small houses
Total income: 15,000c
4th day
no sales
.....
Completly down from the 300,000 per day I was taking in before. I guess I should look on the brightside and realize I wont have to stock my vendors as often...but I liked stocking them. I was excited to log on and hear the email sound before I loaded in. Now when I hear the sound, it is a guild mail. My heart is sinking. Moral is low at Senseo-Sin Construction. Stock holders are threating to put bounties on me....
3 factories, 2 small houses, 10 pieces of furniture
Total income: 247,500c
2nd day
No sales
3rd day
2 small houses
Total income: 15,000c
4th day
no sales
.....
Completly down from the 300,000 per day I was taking in before. I guess I should look on the brightside and realize I wont have to stock my vendors as often...but I liked stocking them. I was excited to log on and hear the email sound before I loaded in. Now when I hear the sound, it is a guild mail. My heart is sinking. Moral is low at Senseo-Sin Construction. Stock holders are threating to put bounties on me....
KRONOS1974
Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:37 pm
#10
My structure vendors are empty. Im making 200 of each harvester again.
Let those people sell for 60-70k, screw em. They wont last long. And you can tell this on our server atleast by all the architects going out of business 2 weeks after having their grand-opening lol.
People are ignorant and cantunderstand that even if you sell so low you will be using more resources, paying more for resources, taking most of your time to stock a vendor, and when you sell out the guys selling for more will get the business. And those guys selling for more will make more cash. If you sell little higher you can stock up more, not have to always craft, and have extra income and time to gather resources so you can keep a stocked vendor. If you dont sell lower prices a little, but starting out so low is just plain stupid in my book.
Ive been raising prices actualy and im sold out. So cheap archs arent a challenge or even compete with me. I blow them away. They cant keep up with amount of ore used on a weekly basis, they have to go buy it if they want to do that. And then their 60-70k doesnt seem like its worth it when it costs them 50k to make a harvester 
Then again ive been doing this a long time and have a large customer support. But some people just have no clue about economics.
robriguez
Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:06 pm
#11
Harvesters have been selling like mad for the last 6 months with MOST flat areas near starports having static lots on Radiant. There was a time an Archi buddy of mine was selling 30 harvesters a week EVERYWEEK. The market is Saturated with resource vendors selling for cheap and most Archis I know of run their own farms.
My resource sales were at a steady million creds/week
My housing and furniture sales were at a steady 400k creds/week
UNTIL THE PATCH.... I havent sold anything but Armour and Weapon repair kits since then. ... ie... 15k in total sales since the patch.
There are just tooooooo many architects and resource vendors out there.... now thelittle obscure vendors no-one ever knew about are selling at 1.5-2cpu and killing the market.
Maybe it will die down. Maybe it will get better once the newbs run out of resources (I personally have a stockpile of over 3 million units of Metal, and Ore and a 300 lot farm...so im not going to run out any time soon) but it better do SOMETHING fast cause im running out of liquid cash and have had to dip into my savings on my other toon.
I really like being an Architect and it would just SUCK if I have to give it up for lack of cash.
Boromiere
Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:26 pm
#12
My sales are WAY down. I am selling about 1/4 of what I used to. All my vendors are completely loaded, I have more than 400 BER 13 Harvesters for sale and I am right in the middle of the pack when it comes to price. My problem is that when I went to look on the bazaar my stuff doesn't show up until page 22 at the earliest. Most people are lazy, and if they find a stocked vendor on the planet they're on they just stop looking and forget about prices.
Oh well, I will keep making stuff and eventually the business will come back. Like other posters said..the n00bs will run out of resources and money long before the true Archies do.
Nicka
Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:00 pm
#13
Sales are not looking good on my front. I used to sell something everyday, usually harvesters, but now.. there are days when I get zero sales.. which is new for me.
Rather disappointing but hey I refuse to reduce my prices or make other change as I believe that prices for architect products (except for furniture) really need some help.
My prices are in par with all other architect on my server so I can't understand the drop in sales other then the fact that it might have something to do with my items being listed on the 15th pages.
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