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Thread: A Question about Crafting Stations....

Kyrien
Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:35 am
#1

I would like to know if the quality of the optional parts (Control Untis, Micro Sensor Suites and Droid Storage Modules) affect the Quality of the final assembly when crafting Crafting stations.


Sorry, I'm just too lazy to test this out for myself.....


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TheMalle
Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:13 am
#2

Yes, they do. Can't recall the exact numbers though.



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Mouli
Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:46 am
#3

They all have an impact on the final quality of the station.


Micro sensor suite is the hardest to craft i think, since it needs steel with 66%OQ and 33%cond... To get 40+ effectiveness stations, you'll prolly need 900+OQ/500+CD steel - which is very hard to find (steel generally got low CD)....








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Naufragus
Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:57 am
#4

well --- first off i am weirded out that you are using the titles of Master but dont seem to know anything about crafting....i am assuming you built a many gungan heads and leveled in an afternoon...


it is pretty much agreed now that the stations rating means nothing....the most important thing is to have a high quality tool...


Mouli
Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:00 am
#5

Mmm to who are you talking?






Sirjina Do'Arden - Master Artisan/Master Architect/Master Droid Engineer of CLOWN
MNHawkFan
Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:15 am
#6

Another question is that how am I supposed to know the quality of a droid storage compartment? I know my control unit is 4. I know my Micro Sensor Suite is 83%. I know the copper is 997C (new stuff:smileyhappy for the final assembly. Could I be getting higher than 37.xx by using a better DSC, even though I'd have no idea if the DSC is better or not?
TheMalle
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:03 am
#7

I justify that by saying I never built any high quality crafting stations, due to the extreme lack of good resources I currently own



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Pawlin
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:50 am
#8






Naufragus wrote:

...it is pretty much agreed now that the stations rating means nothing....the most important thing is to have a high quality tool...








Why do you think that tools matter but stations dont?


Thunderheart's answer addressed stations and tools. Testing I've did myself compared good tool and station versus bad tool and station.



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Rickey
Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:21 pm
#9



MNHawkFan wrote:
Another question is that how am I supposed to know the quality of a droid storage compartment? I know my control unit is 4. I know my Micro Sensor Suite is 83%. I know the copper is 997C (new stuff:smileyhappy for the final assembly. Could I be getting higher than 37.xx by using a better DSC, even though I'd have no idea if the DSC is better or not?





Have the DE who makes it tell you, or mark it in the title, what they experimented it up to. You need to get every single subcomponent as high as you can, this includes Electronic GP modules and the like. Take note that some components have different requirements. Some require high OQ, some are split between OQ and CD, and in different percentages.

It may take awhile and come to some expense, but you should be able to get the station up to 43ish with quality resources and maxing out the experimentation on each component. Having the right type of ingredients is crucial. Being on a mission to gather uber resources to improve my results, I was fortunate to have enough high quality ingredients on hand to be the only one who made perfect 45.0 crafting station on Tarquinas on that magical crafting nerf day.



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MNHawkFan
Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:41 am
#10

Then again, the next night I built a 41+. With the same ingrediants, including the mystery quality droid storage compartments. The only problem is that the customer prepaid and I couldn't gouge an extra 5k or so for breaking the 40 level.


I'm 4412 now. Do you still get this randomness at master?
BoberFett
Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:51 am
#11

Crafting stations use artisan experimentation, not architect.
MNHawkFan
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:44 am
#12


"Crafting stations use artisan experimentation, not architect."


On assembly? 37's assemble at 16. The 41 assembled at 20. I make a crafting kit, they're exactly the same, assuming experimentation is maxed. 14.82. No difference. Ever. The crafting stations are, at least to me, random, using the same materials, with the same experimentation points with the same 100% great success exp. attempts.
Pawlin
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:07 am
#13






MNHawkFan wrote:


"Crafting stations use artisan experimentation, not architect."


On assembly? ...




No, during experimentation. The experimentation points that you are spending are actually your Artisan experimentation points.


If you are both Master Architect and Master Artisan then you won't normally see a difference unless there is some other factor adding to your points like SEAs.







Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
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