Architect Archive
Thread: Thing architects need the most resolved.....Noob Architects
All the issues we have wouldnt mean diddly squat if we had a way to prevent idiots from selling their structures under 3 creds per. I mean like a new option window.
My idea:
Make a new radial button called sell and make it so you cant sell any deed for under 3 creds per. This has got to stop. You just cant make money as an architect. When did a weaponsmith ever become bigger than a construction company?????
I cant sell a single deed anymore for 3 creds per because of idiots who'd rather selll cheaper and obviously have no idea of what math is. They dont realize that their not even making a profit. Any more feedback would be nice but this has to be resolved before the crates or w/e else. If you can put a minimum limit on how u sell ur deeds atleast we'll be happy making some money till the rest is fixed.
/rant
how do u live? do u spent all ur hosues running harvester to harvester never seeing the rest of the game??? there is no way unless u make a sizeable profit to take a day off and let the station down and go have some fun.
the cost of moving harvesters. if you own 10 of them, thats 30k at least per resources shift, and sometimes it happens the same day you set up the harvesters. If you were only selling those resources on the bazaar or on the street would could get more for them than if you build a house out of it and tried to sell that. That is how we lose money rather than gain. Not to mention other money sinks. If we want to buy a gun we have to go sell 2 houses in order to pay for it.
Answer to this riddle? let the underseller kill himself. The rest, just dont build anything unless you get a buyer. If you dont geta buyer, just stockpile resources or sell them on the bazaar for outragious prices like everyone else.
thats the shame of it. people no longer even wanna buy houses they just want large harvesters. And they dont even have a CRAFTING PROFESSION!!!
all they do is sell resources.
please add a sell button and limit the selling of undercharged structures....
Hate to disagree with you, but I can make money just fine selling for under 3 credits per.
I run my medium extractors, ore is what I need most, but I need some steel and aluminum and such. I take what I need for building then sell the surplus steel for 3 credits per on the bazaar. Selling the extra resources covers my costs for extractors. So now I have all the materials I need for a house at essentially no cost. I need XP, so getting 5k for a house and the XP, is better then sitting on a deed for a week getting no XP.
Yes there is an opportunity cost of the resources I could have sold on the bazaar. XP is more important to me than that opportunity cost.
If you have to buy resources, yeah you aren't going to make any money. I don't buy any I run my own extractors and use about 5 lots that I borrow/rent from others. A medium extractor costs 1400 per day and is producing 3300 ore for me. My solar is producing around 4000 a day at 2800. So 3300 ore is costing me roughly 2100 credits. That is 1.6 per resource.
Just because resources are at 3 credit per on the bazaar does not mean we need to sell structures at 3 credits per to turn a profit. Are we maximizing profit or revenue, no, are we making money yes. Play the game the way you want to, let me play it the way I want to. Don't force me to do something I don't want to. What if I want to trade my house for resources and not cash, how are you going to control that?
ive never had to move my operations. i set up 10 smalls and and 10 meds (me and my GF) and every resource shift i m on somkind of ore maybe not a 60% but even a 30% produces at least 2k a day from a med. and theres Always ore (thats why its low %'s because its everywere) and theres always some thing else there befor the resourceshift i was on an 80% aluminum after im on an 82% steel i dont move operations because of a shift i just shift how i make stuff or what i make
I swear everytime I see a post like this I cringe or laugh. Does it ever occur to you that some people DO know how to do math, can run a smart business, and afford to charge prices like this? cause they can. I don't care if resources can potentially sell for more, that weaponsmiths and armorsmiths charge more per resource, or any of that. so the *bleep* what? If I wanted to be a miner, I would sell my resources for a fair price and start trying to drive the over chargers out of business. if I wanted to be a weaponsmith or armorsmith, chances are I might still charge low.
The point is, for the love of pete, people need to stop coming here and complaining everytime they see someone charging less than them. ask them how they do it. learn from it.
oh great got a pairof nice resource collecters. i hope u dont wear the sign of architect over ur head ur a disgrace to the profession.
another reason they need to bring back miner.
"All the issues we have wouldnt mean diddly squat if we had a way to prevent idiots from selling their structures under 3 creds per. I mean like a new option window. " - FFChRoNiC
So if I understand you correctly you want code added to the game to prevent people from underselling you? LOL What kind of free market system do you think this is? If I can make things cheaper than another and sell them for cheaper I do it. If my items aren't as good as another then I sell them cheaper as well. uber crafting costs uber prices but my grind items for xp are cheap. And as far as the noobs you're comlaining about... if they're so stupid as you say then why are they able to continue outseling you? If they aren't making enough on their sales to continue to make houses then why do they keep underselling you? You're upset because you don't want to spend all your time crafting and doing harvest runs and yet you still want to be able to compete with those of us who do nothing but craft? How woud you react to a person who complains that their master Tailor didn't seem to be doing as much damage in combat as the master Bounty Hunter? You have to decide what it is you want to do with your character. Put more time, money, and skill points in something and you'll do better at that task then someone who spreads their effort out. That doesn't mean that you can't be an architect pistoleer who makes houses in between hunting raids on Lok - but don't expect to outdamage a full combat character or out sell a pure crafter. And if you're out there woring by yourself in any pursuit you simply can't compete. You have to make connections. Get friends to run fees to your machines and bring back what they gather, rent lots from people who aren't using theirs, sell your houses on different planets and different bazaars at different prices. You can sell a small house for 20k, but not as fast as you'll sll it for 3 so hawk wares at whatever price you need. Crafting is a complicated process and the fun of the sstem depends on people selling them however and at whatever prices they choose.
I do where the sign of Architecht over my head and am proud to do so. No i dont screw people like you do on structure prices. i make a very good bussness and i have been doing just fine. I dont know what your problem is but i suggest that this board may not help you. maybea doctor?
i wish i was on your server cause i would follow you around (or let you follow me around) just to undercut you.
oh and btw every one of my customers has come back for repeat bussness. and its not because they get a better deal when they come back its because everybody gets a good deal when i sell to them. i dont need to screw people on prices cause im not dumb enough to try and by all my resources on the bazzar.
the point is that as much as they try to make this is a viable and working economy it never wont. Why dont u realize that instead of trying to compete.
I am posting because on talus i couldve put every architect under the ground. I could charge prices no one could beat unless they had a PA and the PA wanted to help me survive. I just dont see it right to have idiots sell their stuff so low cuz they think their cool.