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Thread: Generic P.A. Hall
I just wanted to ask a few questions about the generic P.A. hall.
1) What resources are needed and how much of each
2) How much should i be charged for just services (if i brought all the materials)
3) How much do you charge for one that you buy the resources yourself (the normal market price)
4) What is the averagemaintenance fee per day
Thanks for your help.
http://www.swgcraft.com/showschem.php?id=ghallgen
1.
I think it's 17 walls ... each wall is 3k resources. Resources *generally* go for 3 credits per unit. Of course, each wall takes 10 structure moduals, so out of crafting 170 of those there will be lots of little critical failures, and probably a few big ones, and requires a factory to use, which means for 3 identical power cores, you must have the resources for 4 because one of them is a schematic for the other 3.
2.
It completely depends upon the server you play on and how many master architechs there are. The price is definately more than planet-specific PA halls because it requires a little more resources. If you brought all the resources, which is a hell of a lot, most architechs will make it pretty cheap. I just hit master today myself. 
3.
The price ranges, especially dependant on the server and how long your willing to wait. Generally if you see a PA hall at 350k, then there's a waiting list. If you see it at 600k, they have it in their inventory already and can trade right that same day. That's a lot of resources to gather. of course, if you brougth your own resources, I'm sure all the crafting could be done in a day.
4.
I have heard it's something like 30k a week, but I don't remember. I think I might be thinking of one of the faction bases... sorry.
RatRock wrote:
I just wanted to ask a few questions about the generic P.A. hall.
1) What resources are needed and how much of each
2) How much should i be charged for just services (if i brought all the materials)
3) How much do you charge for one that you buy the resources yourself (the normal market price)
4) What is the averagemaintenance fee per day
Thanks for your help.
1. Check SWGCraft.com - excellent site with a detailed list of materials needed.
2. Depends on the architect but I wouldn't do it if you supplied the materials because I still have to make schematics and will be more worried about failing because if I do (and I will) I still have to come up with the resources to replace what I lost. I don't even take orders anymore for that reason except from guildmates and other close friends, too much pressure. I sell what I make after I make it.
But, if you do find an architect who'll do it, bring extra to accomodate the schematic requirements and a little extra for failures.
3. I don't buy resources, unless you want to consider mining of resources as "buying them from the ground". The actual cost of a PA hall is much lower than what I charge for it, because honestly, building a PA hall is one of the biggest pain in the butts I can think of in the game. I don't want to build them, so if I do decide to do it for someone, they are gonna have to pay for the crate of aspirin I'll need afterwards. Coincidentally, I happen to have a generic hall in my pack right now so if the right person comes along and needs one badly enough to pay me a decent price for it, I'll sell it.
4. If I remember correctly, it's 2400 credits per day. But my memory isn't what it used to be so I could be wrong.
Pretty much out of context, but thought I could share my story about someone inquiring about a pa hall. The request started reasonable with a person in my hunting group on Dathomir:
Guy: Hey how much are PA Halls?
Me: 400k
Guy: Wow, that's a lot.
Me: Yeah, hard to make for a solo architect.
Guy: Will you give me any discount since we hunt together?
Me: Sorry, I can't
Guy: Well it's my birthday tomorrow. Can I have it for 36k
Me: 36k???? You mean 360k?
Guy: No, 36k and I'll give you a pet, some resources, and a small house.
Me: Sorry, no. Not worth my time. What would I get for my birthday?
Guy: Whatever you want. Please do this for me, I know you want to in the bottom of your heart.
Me: No not really, unless I get 400k.
Guy: Come on man. How about we duel? If I win you have to give me the deal.
Me: How about, NO?
Guy: Come on it's my bday tomorrow!
Me: Happy Birthday, now leave me alone. You're becoming bothersome.
it really depends on server/planet/town ... for Eclipse/Naboo/Kaadara where i live its ...
1) alot bout 37k of resources in total
2) i charge bout 30k for service if customer have walls ready.
3) all PA Halls = 300k, delivery in 1-3 days
4) allready said ....
Actually, it is55,768 for planetary and 64,202 for generic. You aren't even getting 5cr/u for generics.
FiLC wrote:
1) alot bout 37k of resources in total
1. check swgcenter.com like hte est said
2. it takes more to make the schematics so the listing of how much it takes isnt entirely correct. Consider critical fails...
3. i charge 375k for generics., 350 for planetary. They arent worth the time and effort otherwise
What do you plan to do if you give all your resources to a Master Architect then he has a Critical Failure?
I will not replace any resources lost in a Critical Failure. The customer start screaming you stole his resources to keep for yourself. Your reputation takes a hit when the crybaby hits your server's board with his whine thread.
No, I will never accept resources in leu of cold, hard credits.
There is only one "craft" when im doin PA Halls ... final one... very very small chance it will fail.
FiLC wrote:
1) alot bout 37k of"low grade ore"in total
Yeah i know its not 5cr/u and why it should be? All my prices are 3cr/u except PA Halls and btw its very easy to make one if u have schema for power core ready ... max20 mins of crafting, so i dont see any reason to charge more.
No one ever said making a PA hall was difficult. In fact, I'll go so far as to say a trained monkey could probably make one - it's only point-and-click. I just think it's tedious and annoying, and I'm most definitely not alone. If you like doing it and you are satisfied with the slim profit margin, by all means, knock yourself out.
FiLC wrote:
There is only one "craft" when im doin PA Halls ... final one... very very small chance it will fail.
Really? Who makes your schematics?
SLIM profit? omg 
you call 300% and 500% slim profit? 
) and its even more then that, coz 9k ofmineral cost me bout 3000 credits (bout 2400 per day for heavy harvester plus1900 energy ) ... if u have ur own harvesters (i have army of 16 heavies) price for mineral is never near of 1cr/u, its allways below. And if you count im Master Merchant everything is 20% cheaper for me ...
slim profit ... LOL
imade 100 power core unitsandsome structure storage modules like month ago ... dont need more now coz one PA Hall is 3 of em, so right now if someone comes with walls (ppl usualy comes with finished walls) all i need to do is one final craft ... bang done ... Thats howIlower a chance of fail when customer comes with his resources (walls). But yeah its bout trust coz i could fail on final craft ... it didnt happen yet