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Thread: Expression Freedom? (no flames, no troll) -Tiggs matter
Message Edited by sebastainlenzi on 11-10-2005 09:35 AM
I ask please, no trolling again. I don't think human rights are retarded, right?
ok, stop here this kind of comment. Constructive feedback only, please.
sebastainlenzi wrote:
I agree, i have seen at least 5 threads start about tiggs (mostly saying why we thoughtit was a good move to remove her from her Directors position) and a few crybaby forms later and the thread is deleted or not able to be accessed .
This is a public form and as long as a few major expressions are not submitted then what we say should be allowed to continue.
Message Edited by sebastainlenzi on 11-10-2005 09:35 AM
But these aren't "public" forums per se... They are SOE's forums, for SOE's customers, and one should expect anti-SOE threads to be moderated in some form.
Were this a third party forum site, that'd be different.
As previously stated, the forums are private properity, the sovereign republic of SOE. With that said, I tend to cry when people feel like spamming OUR IMPORTANT TESTING FORUMS FOR TESTING with threads regarding this completely unrelated matter. The NGE forums are for NGE discussion, not SOE company policy or people's "enlightened" ideas of what's going on.
As for Tiggs, what has happened is a matter between SOE and her and you people who claim to support her only make matters worse. You're effectively trying to pressure her into writing a very private matter in public.
I wish people would stop the bickering and accept the fact that Tiggs is no longer working for SWG Community Relations. Then breathe in some fresh oxygen and if they feel the need, wait for her to express her feelings at her own and SOE's discretion.
This is of course my own opinion and I speak for myself only.
Twiokio wrote:
But WHY was she fired? Does anyone have a link to the post? I heard it was something about WoW
That's really none of your business.
I heardrumorrhymes withtumor.
I constructively feed back a reminder that how SOE chooses to manage itself is between its executive, its board, and its investors. Customers do not get a say in operational decisions. Customers have only the right to buy or not to buy based on whatever criteria they choose.
There's no rights invasion, the very notion is pseudolegal hogwash ridiculous nonsense. If a company offends you in their management decisions, your options for recourse are 1) stop giving them money or 2) apply for a job, get hired, become a manger of the relevant department with proper authority and solicit the ex-employee to return.
LOL, your rights are not violated at all. No where in the EULA were customers given a say-so in who gets to be Director of Community Relations.
Now please, stop this gayness and get back to the very real issues and problems of the new game coming out in 5 days. That's what Tiggs would do.
First: IF she was fired. I am not claiming at all she was. it maybe really a private matter. If it is so, it can be said as such an no more. Not claiming for it, only for the way it has been managed.
Second: This is the Community and Relations Board. Where the Tiggs matter has been exposed, so I think I am in the right place to express this matter. I am not in the NGE. Maybe you clicked wrong and thought it was another board. It can happen, I only say to to keep it in perspective.
Third: Yes, they are SOE forums. They have politics, rules of conduct and they are some mean of communication between SOE and us. As such, I use them to express my concerns. I don't like to be played with, do you?
Fourth: I don't want to press the matter with her to force something very private out, again, I would love to have her back. And I would hate if she was fired in an unfair way. If it was so, she could count on all my support and all I could do as someone who has been helped by her, I would do. There are people out there who would do, too.
Fifth: ok, better keep the rumor in the field of rumor. I don't want to play with it. Only facts. Threads closed about concern in the player base. No reason given, only a unilateral decission that it was not to be discussed here. I do not agree and express it.
Sixth: If SOE want to keep its policy as his own, but give me a way to express my disgust at it, and give me a way to make them know, Why shoul I not do it? If your profession is nerfed, or you have feel that they have done soemthing that unbalance it, Do you try to find why and reason if or if not?. I feel the main way of communication between me and SOE have been cut from the base. I am very, really and very concerned that all the work, the extra work that woman did, is not probably going to be done by anyone else, seeing how we beat them when they try. But she did it, and I am very concerned that if we lacked a lot of info because of SOE politics, we are going to be double misinformed, because noone is going to want to burn his life again in this way, to be wiped out without any concern about her and being buried using these methods I have seen.
Seventh: please, Have I insulted you in any way? Why to use words as those, and making as if you dismissed my claim as something childish, trying that way to keep them low? Anyway, the formula you used, disqualifiy you from the beggining, but anyway I will gladly see that they are not used again.
Eighth: Cheese: lol, good relief ![]()
almanish wrote:
I ask please, no trolling again. I don't think human rights are retarded, right?
ok, stop here this kind of comment. Constructive feedback only, please.
its not trolling