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Thread: Question: At Master Rifleman, does +25 in Skill Tapes to speed even help?

Gdog79
Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:06 am
#1

I was told that +14 is the cap that matters if your master, but that doesnt seem to make sense to me, anyone have any insight on this?



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signal1941
Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:19 am
#2

At master you have +90 speed so +25 tape would take you over the cap by 15% currently



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Jeisyn
Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:25 am
#3

Put things in perspective.


at master rifleman, +90 rifle speed will fire a 7.3 second t21 strafe2 (3.5x multiplier off the top of my head??)at 2.55 (2.6?)seconds per shot.


+95 rifle speed will fire the same rifle and shot at 1.3 seconds per shot.


+99 rifle speed will fire the same rifle and shot at 0.2555 sec which is bumped to the speed cap of 1 second. do you really need faster than that?


by that measure, an 11.0 second rifle with +99 speed with strafe2 would fire at 0.39 seconds per shot (1 second)... so it's not gonna matter how slow your rifle is.


for most people, +95 works just fine.


the math for it is


100 - (rifle speed mod, 90 at master rifleman) * .01 = "real rifle speed" or, (100 - 90)*.01= .1


use that as the rifle speed mod, and multiply it against your rifle's speed (7.3 average t21) and the delay for a given shot (3.5x is the delay for Strafe2, the slowest shot).


so .1 x 7.3 x 3.5 = 2.555 seconds for strafe2 at master rifleman with a 7.3 second t21.





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Eaca
Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:55 pm
#4

25 is the technical cap to any skill mod per TH, however speed over 100 is irrelevant, placing a "soft" cao at +10 at master or +5 with master marksman.



I posted more detailed info Here about what increasing rifle speed really means on how fast you shoot.
CannabiCannibanoid
Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:32 am
#5

May i ask why is it 'fair' that a rifleman can speed cap their strongest moves with aweapon that does several times more damage than a pistol, whereas pistoleers are doing negligible damage to compared to a 500dmg ap3 weapon?



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LLJK_Griz
Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:50 am
#6






CannabiCannibanoid wrote:
May i ask why is it 'fair' that a rifleman can speed cap their strongest moves with aweapon that does several times more damage than a pistol, whereas pistoleers are doing negligible damage to compared to a 500dmg ap3 weapon?





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PyscoJuggalo
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:21 am
#7

Canibal it is fair because that is what riflemen do.


Carbineers are KD artists and can dabble in BH.


Pistoleers are dodge/KD resist artists and can dabble in BH and/or smuggler.


and Riflemen just deal damage and nothing else.(Even if block worked, wich it don't BTW, it would just halve damage)




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Tule
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:46 am
#8



LLJK_Griz wrote:


CannabiCannibanoid wrote:
May i ask why is it 'fair' that a rifleman can speed cap their strongest moves with aweapon that does several times more damage than a pistol, whereas pistoleers are doing negligible damage to compared to a 500dmg ap3 weapon?


For those of you who haven't met this idiot yet, he's the one whining on the weaponsmith forum to nerf the jawa ion and make composite stun-resistant so he never dies in PVP. He does not listen to any logic, he just posts the same retarded crap over and over. Don't even bother trying to argue with him.




/sarcasm on

Why shouldn't they change the entire game to suit his whim? he pays his $15/month so he should get to call all the shots. I am a firm believer that any skill/tactic/item in the game that causes people to die should be nerfed/removed.

/sarcasm off

I'm sure his dad would give him enough hugs now to make up for all the ones he missed in childhood if he only asked.

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