Rifleman Archive
Thread: How is it.....
That a pistoleer has the same range as a rifle ?
That a TKA can knockdown a Master Rifleman from 60m away?
That a Master Rifleman does not have a knockdown shot, but a stand-up shot ? (Startle Shot, correct me if am wrong)
That Master Rifleman does not have any distance advantage over all other weapons ?
That rifleman is pretty much the only one that sucks pointblank ?
That Master Rifleman does not have a melee command with the butt of the rifle for pointblank attacks ?
That a TKA can knockdown a Master Rifleman from 60m away?
lol..
Buy yourself a spraystick if you're unhappy with your accuracy at point blank.
Also...what about the TKA/Rifleman exploit that allows a TKA to do knockdown from 60m away ??
ilau wrote:
Also...what about the TKA/Rifleman exploit that allows a TKA to do knockdown from 60m away ??
grrrrrrrr
FarstarThat a pistoleer has the same range as a rifle ?
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well i would love for a pistoleer to stand at 60meters and shoot me while i shoot him from 60m with strafe shot 2 and see who ends up dead
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That a TKA can knockdown a Master Rifleman from 60m away?
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ya that does suck but the jury is still out on the whole lag thing so do we "really" know they are knocking us down at 60m?
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That a Master Rifleman does not have a knockdown shot, but a stand-up shot ? (Startle Shot, correct me if am wrong)
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we dont need to have every skill that every other class has. we are a different creature. riflemen's role in battle is not to knock people down but provide covering fire, cause people to come out of hiding (flush maybe??) etc....
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That Master Rifleman does not have any distance advantage over all other weapons ?
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this one i cant respond to cause im not clear on what you mean by it? If i stand at my ideal range fighting some other class i would expect to win everytime (again master folks, i didnt even try to pvp until i was master, imo that is our only weakness not being as useful in pvp until master)
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That rifleman is pretty much the only one that sucks pointblank ?
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yes we have big heavy slow guns that arent best suited to point blank although (sorry if i sound like a broken record) at master ive had no problems killing lots of things very quickly (with strafe shot 2 hehe) upclose. In PVP i always seem to end up with pets hot on my tail and just usually turn around and let them attack me cause they are down in seconds.
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That Master Rifleman does not have a melee command with the butt of the rifle for pointblank attacks ?
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agreed but i dont think its that crucial, whip out your damage sliced spray stick or fall back on your hand to hand combat as every rifleman should have, j/k.
so IMO as of right now i think rifleman sits pretty good, we are very good in PVP but only when buffed (give a shout out to all the master dancer/musicians out there *fist in the air*)and seem to be balanced well with the other classes.
I have tried stressing this before but distance is very important...
if I have three rifles on me and they are ideal=35m, ideal=50m and ideal=60m, forgetting PvP for the moment, in PvE where you can make tests, you can pick the same creature or NPC over and over again, targeting them at different distances, and without using specials, when your avatar is prone at those distances, the difference in hit damage rate is phenomenal.
What's your point? We have our own cool specials like conceal shot, snipershot, strafeshot, flurry shot, and lets not forget headshot and mindbleeds.
Vic Zan
Master Rifleman / Master TKA
Colonel in the service of the Emperor
True, but i dont what good is being a rifleman, what advantage does a rifleman have, if an unarmed guy (which is about 75% of the players now) can knock you down with one special from 60m away then come kick the $hit out of you while you watch ? Rifleman has nodistance advantage, we should be able to hit anythingfrom outside of its range, thats the point, rifleman should have a farther range than any other combat class.
We are so called snipers but a friggen pistoleer has the same rangeas us !!!! An unarmed fighter has the same range as us with a lunge special !
I have used those shots, but TK can beef up their mind...so there goesmindbleed. Startle shot is worthless. Conceal and strafe are the only ones that i see work, and they are minimal at best. If a TK has a buff then what is the point ? And i dont know about your server but i would say more than half of the people that PvP on radiant are TKA.
After you get master you will become elite. I shoot strafe2 once per second. It does over 4k to mobs in the field, and that is in a cone. Just don't let TKAs get close and you will own them, that is their stong point. If you haven't reached master yet I understand your frustration because all of our power resides in that last block. As for pvp is concerned I will kill a TKA before he can get remotely close to me, as well as absolutely every profession out there. Also with my jawa ion rifle in hand, if they can't get me on the ground, they are dead in 15 seconds regardless of armor. Rifleman's power is distance and damage type diversity, not to mention speed, oh my the speed.
Vic Zan
Master Rifleman / Master TKA
Colonel in the Imperial Army
Bingo, until you're master, rifle in pvp is near pointless (cept we clean up battlefields nicely with sniper shot).
Here's another thought.... pvp is broken as crap. If you're lookin for FPS action get a FPS game.
I do agree, our range is funny when a pistoleer has the same reach (those smugglers with eyesehot are a pain). But overall, I've just learned to PVP when my friends need actual help and I'm bored enough. There's so many obvious flaws that if I go into a pvp battle and expect the best I get disappointed. Just spam your specials and think "i'll die any second, hey maybe I'll shoot someone and they'll actually DIE! woot!"
crazy peoples and their hopes of PVP grandeur 
ONce you get to Master Rifleman is great, Before that it sucks, but so many people have said that already.
Only person who kills me on a regular basis is that durned Elernet. Dirty Carbineers.