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Thread: Rifle with other combat combo

DangerousToSociety
Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:07 am
#1

I've been testing some things with other proffessions like pistol with their dodge and carbine with their counter



I'm a Master Riflemen with 4,0,4,4 Pistoleer



I'm trying to get riflemen with dodge but I don't think this works




I would like to know if dodge,counter works with rifle equipped




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Reham
Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:43 am
#2

From everything that i have read, defense bonus do not stack. Only get the defense of the weapon you have equipped. Could be wrong, but thats how i interpretted it.



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Pwa
Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:48 am
#3

Dodge, counter and block only work with the weapon that grants them.

DECarbineer
Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:15 am
#4

Fist get master if you want to do PVP


Second, only ranged defence stacks. So get TK or Fencer trees or both. The result is a pretty uber template cause enemies without uber accurancy miss about 80% of their shots. But as far as i know the stacking of all defence(ranged def., dogde, meleedef.)and offence(like carbine speed and accurancy of BH and Carbinier)mods is gonna be nerfed at least its on the GCW bug list.



28) Certain player templates with stacking skill mods are over powered, (recently even CSRs wrongly banned a player because they thought they were cheating when in fact it was simply stacked skill mods)




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Jeisyn
Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:03 am
#5

check out Raphayl's posts in the fencer forum - lots of good knowledge in there.


dodge only works with fencer/pistol.


if you want to stack anything, stack Defense vs *....* , Ranged Defense, and Melee defense. RIGHT NOW, these stack.


i'll leave it up to you to figure out the best ways to do that.


note> it's great to have a master melee + master ranged profession under your toons' belt, for pvp - then you get the mitigation 3 for each and are very versatile.


rifleman is great for stacking ranged/melee defenses, pistol may look great on paper with it's crazy defense vs... and dodge, but as an offense profession it's nowhere near a rifle. something to think about...





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Valkyrie36
Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:31 am
#6

Ok..Without a doubt..and I say this without reservations..I amd the best damed Master Sharpsoot/Musician on my server. Hands Down!


Dam holocrons...

Rekkin
Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:22 pm
#7

Lol according to my holocron I'm gonna be the best master rifleman/dancer at some point in my career... Doh...





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Schleicher23
Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:21 pm
#8

why will the defence from the pistoleer skill do not work with equipped rifle? they are both ranged weapons.


i think this has to work. what about the 50+ to knockdown?

Sotaudi
Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:15 pm
#9




why will the defence from the pistoleer skill do not work with equipped rifle? they are both ranged weapons.



Some mods are weapons specific, some are not. Melee defense and ranged defense are not weapon specific, so they stack.


However, I am both Rifleman and Swordsman. I have Block from Rifleman and Counterattack from Swordsman. Yet, I will not see my toon doing counterattacks with a rifle equipped nor blocks with my 2H Swords equipped (though, when you think about it, it would make moresense the other way around).


Carbineers, on the other hand, get Counterattack. But if I had gone Carbineer, rather than Swordsman, the same would hold true: counterattacks only with the carbine, and blocks only with the Rifle even though both are ranged weapons. However, Carbineer and Swordsman both have Counterattack, and I believe it is still true that, because you are using weapons in either case that work with Counterattack, the mods for counterattack will still stack for a Carbineer/Swordsman just as Dodge for Pistoleer/Fencers stack.


So it is not whether they are ranged vs. melee, but whether the weapons for that class work with that particular mod.


Of course, block appears to be broken right now. In fact, while Counterattack fires off, it is supposed to return an unstoppable "counter" attack. It does not appear to cause damage when it does work, so it, too, is broken to some degree.




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Ogova-Regulator
Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:29 pm
#10

Made it most of the way to Master Pistoleer and recently switched to Rifleman. I have Dodged with my rifle equipped, though I dodge a lot less. Which leads me to beleive that though I can dodge, any bonuses to dodge from extra boxes in pistoleer are not in effect, I merely have the base chance to dodge.



bleh
Schleicher23
Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:49 am
#11

what is about the defence blocks against dizzy, blind,stun ? will the pistoleer defence will stack with rifle equipped? and what about the knockdown defence from the pistoleer?
Jeisyn
Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:48 am
#12

yes, all Ranged and Melee Defense stack, and so does defense vs *status*.






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Ivokifa
Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:33 pm
#13

I have almost mastered rifleman, and was planning to be a TKA as well. But my x-mas holo said i needed to master commando. I have posted this as a topic, because i really havent seen that combo in game before, or heard anyone mention it. I'm not sure the two would compliment each other the best....


Whats your guys opinion of a rifleman/commando combo??



Thanks,


Ivokifa

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