Rifleman Archive
Thread: The unsung rifles
(Disclaimer: this is all based on my personal experance and is not based on game systemmathmatical fact. im not a number cruncher just dabble a bit in experamenting. This test was done with master weaponsmith rifles. No Krayts or other enhancemetns used)
Currently i have found that the only rifles in game worth a **edit** are as follows,
Laser Rife : Good accuracy at long range, high maxium damage offset by really low min damage.
T-21 : T-21 + AP3 + master rifleman = sumtin dead nuff said
Jawa Ion Rifle: stun type damage eats through comp armor like a hot knife through butter (only weapon to use in PVP really)
What about the other rifles we have certs for but never use? Well i have tried thease rifles on a hunch that there has got to be somthing we are missing. Here is what i have found out. I have attempted to find the best Min damage rifle out there (taking nothing else into consideration)
DLT20a: this is the rifle we know and love for grinding out marksman. solid medium stats across the board (min damage in the low to mid 100's)and pretty good accuracy at 0m.
E11: Standard imperial stormtrooper rifle. Again meduim stats across the board and AP2. Can't squeeze out enough damage to make it really noteworthy.(min damage in low to med 100's). the AP on the rifle is a bit of a helper.
Tusken Rifle: This wins my vote for the best Min damage rifle (at least onmy server). Min damage in the high100's to low 200's. Ap1 and had good accuracy at long range ( so you can still reach out and touch somone) Imho this rifle is very underrated. The only reason i see not to use this till master is A. The damage type is borked (it is energy type damage and should be kenitic) and B. it only has AP1 witch doesnt give you the extra damage bonus you get with AP 2 and 3.
CDEF Rifle: prolly shouldent even mention this one... use it till you get a cert for the DLT20 then wrap this around a tree.
Spraystick: another underrated rifle. This little guy can be considered the little brother rifle of the laser rifle. really low min damage offset by higher max damage. the kicker about this little guy is it's rate of fire (usually in the 1.5-2.5 area) and has good accuracy at 0m. a good choice for a rifle (mind damage) sidearm.
There you have it guys and gals. A little food for thought. Take from it what you will, use it, flame it, debate it, whipe you ass with it. Do what you will
thanks for listening
I love my laser rifle, i hate my t21 i need to get another one makes me mad i get consistently better shots with the laser than the t21,
I use the jawa ion rifle a lot also, so many things have no stun protection 
And i get higher damage from the ion rifle than i usually get with my t21.
Those are my standards but i find i also use my spraystick like someone else said before as a sidearm when the rifle no longer is in range. I have stood toe to toe with 3 pikets with my spraystick blasting away letting it autofire since my mind was at 38/1000. ended up killing all three
I use the e11 alot more than i realize because it is a ap 2 rifle and has closer range than the laser rifle. It should get consistently better damage in PvP and enables you to mask yourself as a carbineer. A little confusion as to your skill capabilties goes a long way in PvP. I love seeing people think they are safe standing inside my optimum range and since they think oh carbineer not an immediate threat unless they are a little closer. And then wham!! mindshot, headshot. and they think hey thats not a carbine!!
Also you should take HAM cost into that consideration, the E11 has much lower HAM costs than the Laser or even the spraystick. It is relatively close to the DLT20a/DLT20. That is another to consider the E11.
Also the E11 is easier to get Krayt enhanced, and there are some nasty Krayt enhanced E11's out there.
just my 2 credits,
beamstalk wrote:
Also you should take HAM cost into that consideration, the E11 has much lower HAM costs than the Laser or even the spraystick. It is relatively close to the DLT20a/DLT20. That is another REASON to consider the E11.
T21: Rarely use this unless I need the extra AP
Laser: Unless I have a mind buff or muon gold on me I generally use this one for the bleed. Other times I will use it with a mind cost reducing powerup until the target agros me.
E11: Love this rifle, it is krayt enhanced, has decent accuracy at 0m and pretty good damage. This is the rifle I use for general purpose fighting.
Dlt20a: [email protected] (no powerup) The krayt tissue here makes this a pretty nice weapon, even without the AP. This is the weapon to use when your mind is low, such as during a muon downer or when your target is hitting your mind.
Jawa: Lots of thing don't have any protection against stun, this is a pretty wicked rifle when the target has 50 - 60% energy resists but is vulnerable to stun.
LLJK_Griz wrote:
SG82: crap damage, no AP, no one makes them because they're a pain in the ass, and I've NEVER seen anyone using one
Still noteworthy because AFAIK this is the only cold-damage weapon in the game.
im convinced i have one of the best spray sticks.
its sliced for damage somehing like 90-29X 1.9 speed
thenput a powerup on it...
_Macabre_ wrote:
LLJK_Griz wrote:
SG82: crap damage, no AP, no one makes them because they're a pain in the ass, and I've NEVER seen anyone using one
Still noteworthy because AFAIK this is the only cold-damage weapon in the game.
cryoban grenades, but those are useless too.
anything that has mega resists to all but cold probably has at least medium armor so the sg82 will be useless, and I don't remember ever seeing anything hard that has an actual cold vulnerability.