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Eya
im near novice rifleman, i visited a lot of shop, why all said that t21 is the better rifle ?

If i see stats, laser rifle do more damage and better speed of t21.

Can anyone explain me plz

Eya
im near novice rifleman, i visited a lot of shop, why all said that t21 is the better rifle ?

If i see stats, laser rifle do more damage and better speed of t21.

Can anyone explain me plz

well at Maste rifleman speed isn't a problem

and the T21 has Heavy armor piercing which = more damage

it's personal preference really I guess

it depends what server you are on, on Tarquinas the T21s that are out there blow so the laser rifle is king

but on other servers the T21 is more popular

esiest way to figure it is to multiply the damage by 1.25 and then compare it to a lazer rifle. the other thing to consider is minimum damage, which is more important now they have added ranged mitigation.

actully on that point does anyone know if the ranged mitigation is worked out before or after the bonus for armor piercing??

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Alarkac wrote:

esiest way to figure it is to multiply the damage by 1.25 and then compare it to a lazer rifle. the other thing to consider is minimum damage, which is more important now they have added ranged mitigation.

actully on that point does anyone know if the ranged mitigation is worked out before or after the bonus for armor piercing??

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Doesn't matter. It's all multiplication so the order of the operations doesn't matter.

50-400 laser rifle, mitigation (lvl 3) before AP, vs. AR 0.
350*.4=140, now effectively 50-190, average 120. 120*1.25^2=187.5 average actual damage.

Now, with AP before mitigation...
50*1.25^2=78.125 AP adjusted minimum
400*1.25^2=625 AP adjusted max
Range=546.875
Mitigated range=.4*546.875=218.75+78.125=296.875 mitigated max.
78.125+296.875/2=187.5 Average actual damage.

i have this :

T21 Sliced :
Speed 5.7
Damage 177- 405.


Laser Rifle Sliced :
Speed 5.4
Damage 52 - 545.


For powerups, better speed or damage ? Im novice only

Laser rifles until you reach Master Sharpshooter then go with T21

i dont see laser rifles being much competition anymore, with their dmg range and mitigation

T21 and Ion are what it comes down to for me

i see compo i use ion

no armor, i use T21

Well, like Mak said, on Tarq the T-21's suck. Hell even the Lasers are sub par to other servers, but we just make do with what we have. And it really isa matter of preferance, and of targets. Remember, if something doesn't have any armor, AP is not taken into account. So a 750 damage laser WILL outdamage a 550 -T21 against an unarmored opponent in PVP.

And a lot of people are missing the point on Mitigation. Yes, your max damage is reduced. But by still having the highest damage gun you can, you get the highest damage possible.

105-756 laser with against Mit 3:

(756-105) * .4 (60% damage reduction)= 260 + 105 min damage = 365 max damage. Against an AP1 target with 10% (so it isn't considered vulnerable and thus AR0) resists thats 410 max damage without using specials.

100-450 T-21 against same mitigation:

(450-105) * .4 = 138 + 105 min damage = 243 max damage. Against same AP1 target that is 341 max damage without specials.

I don't know what kind of stats you get on your other servers for T-21's or Lasers, but the calculations are easy enough to do. If there is no AR level, the AP is the same on both guns. Otherwise, it is a 1.25 multiplier for each AR level above it.

What are you talking about ? - that if no armor rating then ap is now in effect ???

should be even more effective if opp has no armorrating, then the laser should do 1,25x1,25 more and the T21 should do 1,25x1,25x1,25

this is how it should work, but it may not, of that i dont know.

I suppose part of it is preference. You need a variety of weapons for the task at hand however. Personally, I love my T21, as it seems to always perform better than my laser, for my style of play of course.

Was doing some Faction missions VS NPC´s was meeting Surface marshals and Reb Generals. Not sure what AR they have but my guess is light.

What i did notice was when i shot with my T21 rifle it says in the combat line that i hit for 2k'ish damage but over thier heads it would be 3k'ish numbers and that was what was taken away from thier Ham so i that post about doing max damage against Light armored things cant be right as it seems that iam doing 50% more damage. Havent cheked it out on NPC/Creatures with None armor raiting yet. But it would be strange if i did less damage to an non armord NPC/Creature then i would do against something with light Armor rating