Rifleman Archive

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kpr wrote:

I usaually dont post a whole lot but Im tired of the tells telling me Im an overpowered class. Then I have to spend the next few minutes explaining why Im not. Well just to get it all done he we go.

1) WE HAVE NO KNOCKDOWN DEFENSE

2) WE DONT HAVE A KNOCKDOWN MOVE (and before u tell me to use dizzy and supression fire, a novice bh told me to try that and while he spamed suppression fire on me as a test i was on autofire, he was incaped at the same moment i went to kneeling. If i had been moving and fireing specials for more damage then this will not happen. Suppression fire is not viable in pvp)

3) WE HAVE NO DELAY MOVES (If u get hit with a 10 sec delay in pvp, your most likely gonna die, as most pvp combat takes less time than that anyways to finish)

4) OUR STAT MITIGATION MOVES OUR POINTS FROM HEALTH AND ACTION (the 2 stats hit the most) AND MOVE THEM TO MIND

5) HIGH HAM COSTS

6) UNABLE TO WEAR ARMOR CAUSE OF STAT MITIGATION AND HAM COSTS (Unless we are buffed out the wazoo and druged up on muon, I personally dont know anybody else besides rifleman who will buy 20 crates fo muon gold at a time. The cost and time factor to get mind, health, and action buffs, let alone the time, is excrutiating.)

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hunt-x wrote:

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kpr wrote:

I usaually dont post a whole lot but Im tired of the tells telling me Im an overpowered class. Then I have to spend the next few minutes explaining why Im not. Well just to get it all done he we go.

1) WE HAVE NO KNOCKDOWN DEFENSE

2) WE DONT HAVE A KNOCKDOWN MOVE (and before u tell me to use dizzy and supression fire, a novice bh told me to try that and while he spamed suppression fire on me as a test i was on autofire, he was incaped at the same moment i went to kneeling. If i had been moving and fireing specials for more damage then this will not happen. Suppression fire is not viable in pvp)

3) WE HAVE NO DELAY MOVES (If u get hit with a 10 sec delay in pvp, your most likely gonna die, as most pvp combat takes less time than that anyways to finish)

4) OUR STAT MITIGATION MOVES OUR POINTS FROM HEALTH AND ACTION (the 2 stats hit the most) AND MOVE THEM TO MIND

5) HIGH HAM COSTS

6) UNABLE TO WEAR ARMOR CAUSE OF STAT MITIGATION AND HAM COSTS (Unless we are buffed out the wazoo and druged up on muon, I personally dont know anybody else besides rifleman who will buy 20 crates fo muon gold at a time. The cost and time factor to get mind, health, and action buffs, let alone the time, is excrutiating.)

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YOU CAN FIX ANYONE OF THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU SPEND FEW SKILL POINTS AND CAN DABBLE TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS.

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Oh I see. So what you're saying is nerf dabbling. Wait aren't they doing that next publish? Also why should one of these professions in the uber build get nerfed but not one of the others?

Oh, one last thing. Is itreally thathard to move your pinkyleft a quarter of an inch?

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pyclone wrote:

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Now on to what we have....
1) GOOD DAMAGE AND SPEED (But like bh I had to waste skill points for master marksman to fire that fast, though not as many as them)

2) GOOD ACCURACY (But our weapons are pretty horrible up close, unless you use the spraystick but its damage is pretty low too)

3) GOOD RANGED AND MELEE DEFENSE

4) STUN DAMAGE (but then again were not the only ones with it)

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LOL this made me laugh, let me try:

Best Dmg and speed, targatlble mind Plus 85 speed i belive compare to pistllee +73 or carb +65

Accuracy rocks guy, +180 at master i think, compar tle pistleer +110, even with the -70 at point blank your guns give you still make hits pretty easily

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Go get the facts before you babble, please.

Accuracy is +160 at master, +170 if ou are also a master Marksman.You thinkpistols should be as accurate as a rifle? I think not.

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MarcoRenaldi wrote:

I am saddened by the direction this thread has gone and unfortunately I have not been helping this get into a more positive debate.

However I would like to make a few points

1. If you profession has broken skills (pistoleers) get them fixed instead of breaking ours.

2. If you are a non master fighting a master and get owned then you need to suck it up and leave

3.IF you are complaining that we are impossible to hit.........We have stated several times this is a bug and it will be fixed

4. (cont from 3)using the defense stacker argument is pointless as that too is getting fixed

5. RIfleman are horrible until they cross that master gap, dont say thaty are not because unless you have crossed that gap then you have no idead the difference it can make.

6. The jawa ion is a awesome PVP weapon and is what really set us apart from the other classes. Dont nerf this as it is the balancer for those who can afford comp to those who cant. Yes more weapons need to use stun dmg to offset the power of this gun. This way people will have to choose if they will be safer with or without armor.

To be continued i am late for work

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I completley agree with this poster. As a MBH, this is all I speak for, that bugs get fixed. I am not asking for nerfs to the rifleman, just defense stacking needs to be fixed! I can take hits to the mind no problem, not asking for a nerf there, it is my fault if I do get hit in the mind and am not prepared for it. But come on, I can't even hit you guys because of defense stacking, which will be fixed soon anyway. So at this point, it is a moot topic.

But for rifleman to come in here and say their defenses are fine need to go and bark up a tree because they are lying to themselves. I am a MBH with 0,0,4,3 pistoleer and have excellent pistol accuracy, and I cannot hit a master sharpshooter/defense stacker up close for the life of me.

Message Edited by MarcoRenaldi on 02-12-2004 02:26 PM

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jaymind72 wrote:

As far as the defenses being out of wack - well tonight I got owned by a carbineer. This guy had everything migrated to health and action, no mind. I went prone at 64m,/mindshot1; /headshot2;/headshot2;/headshot2 - all misses! I'm not a Master yet, but come on... He threw a KD my way, knocked me down and started to beat on me. I finally got up and noticed my bleed almost has him down. I hit /headshot;/headhsot - 2 misses again in a row, then he KD'd me for the last time - I couldn't get up at all. And he was not a master.

I know rifleman suck before master, but come on. 5 shots that missed, and he hits both times with a KD. He never missed me from 64/63m!

I want nothing else, but just a little KD defense. H shouln't be easily zapping me at 64m - his accuracy should be shot to hell at that range.

I just want some KD defense - just a little, not being greedy here.

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