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Thread: Goodbye to Muon Gold. Hello to Vasarian Brandy!

WayneInAustin
Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:00 am
#27

Besides master rifleman, I am also master smuggler. Either word hasn't gotten around, or people like to stack, because I had one of my best nights ever selling Muon Gold crates last night.




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Way'ev-Da on Eclipse
Came to life in Restuss, on Rori, 07/03/2003
Master Rifleman 10/18/2003 - present
Master Smuggler 1/25/2004 - 11/05/2004
Dancer buffs + Muon + Musician Buffs + Vasarian Brandy = Sex, Drugs, Rock&Roll, and Alcohol(Man, I love this job!)


Barb-Wire
Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:11 am
#28



WayneInAustin wrote:
Besides master rifleman, I am also master smuggler. Either word hasn't gotten around, or people like to stack, because I had one of my best nights ever selling Muon Gold crates last night.





not a lot of the non-forum folks know just how good brandy can get. getting REALLY good brandy is not an easy or cheap thing so it will never become as widely used as the drug market. muon gold isnt going to be dropped to the curb by the chef stuff by any stretch. i think the main reason will be there just are not that many chefs that are in it to be chefs. most are there as hologrinders.



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Barb Wire
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Ex-Imperial Navy
LinkinSUN
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:53 am
#29






VoodooExtreme wrote:





LinkinSUN wrote:

You guys realize that this new chef stuff is an indirect nerf of rifleman in pvp? People running around with way over 3k mind now, some reach over 4k(1k base+dancer+2x brandy (800)+muon+ 2x old glucose + powerboost). Bye bye headshot and back SS2 spamming






Yeah but then if you think about it, some people will only spend money on buffs that their specials make use of. So in essence, mostly rifleman will buy the stuff.





Actually every serious pvp'er wants as many mind as possible, riflemen and CM's dominate inpvp actually. I never ever see a PVP'er without a mindbuff if he seriously wants to go on a killing spree, at least on Bloodfin.





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WayneInAustin
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:07 am
#30






Robogrowl wrote:

..... Its just now in addition to being a druggie, i'm an alcoholic too....


My friends are getting worried about me, i feel an intervention coming soon






Like one of our long-time contributors said in another thread (Tez.. was it you? I'm drawing a blank here):
Between the Master Dancer lap dances formind buffs, the Muon Gold,the Master Musician mind buffs, and the Vasarian Brandy,Rifleman must now be into sex, drugs, rock-and-roll and alcohol to survive!


WOOT! I ain't NEVER leavin' this profession!






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Way'ev-Da on Eclipse
Came to life in Restuss, on Rori, 07/03/2003
Master Rifleman 10/18/2003 - present
Master Smuggler 1/25/2004 - 11/05/2004
Dancer buffs + Muon + Musician Buffs + Vasarian Brandy = Sex, Drugs, Rock&Roll, and Alcohol(Man, I love this job!)


Schiller
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:52 am
#31

Of course muon will never die.



however now ive found some of that new drink. Awesome.


And who said its pricey? Maybe i got a good pick but



mine was 300 for 33 minutes. 49 stomach feel. 21 uses paid 6k


this is cheaper then muon gold. let me explain that:


i stack 2 drinks for 33 minutes. that means a stack of 21 uses will last (21/2)*33 = 346 minutes. i paid 6k for the stack so i pay 17.34 cr./min


no muon gold is 25 uses for 10 minutes. makes 250 minutes for 7.5k (i pay). so i pay 30.00 cr./min



That means i pay 76% more for muon gold.



Here we go chefs.



Barb-Wire
Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:44 pm
#32



Schiller wrote:

Of course muon will never die.

however now ive found some of that new drink. Awesome.

And who said its pricey? Maybe i got a good pick but

mine was 300 for 33 minutes. 49 stomach feel. 21 uses paid 6k

this is cheaper then muon gold. let me explain that:

i stack 2 drinks for 33 minutes. that means a stack of 21 uses will last (21/2)*33 = 346 minutes. i paid 6k for the stack so i pay 17.34 cr./min

no muon gold is 25 uses for 10 minutes. makes 250 minutes for 7.5k (i pay). so i pay 30.00 cr./min

That means i pay 76% more for muon gold.

Here we go chefs.






just depends on how it is made. my chef friend dropped off a brand new run of brandy she made for me to try. its +420 36min. 18 use per brandy 50% filling. this stuff requires BE enhancers and is quite pricy resource wise to make. i think the raw cost in just resources for going rate of the resources alone is around 6k each. but im just guessing from what she has said goes in it. im not a crafter.



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AcidRaineV
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:24 pm
#33



All I can say is WOW.



Okay well I can say more, so here goes.. Thanks to this post I tried out some brandy last night. Talked to a good friend of mine who had been making it with the BE components. She ended up with +450/450/450 for 38 minutes at 50 filling. To make it quick, that means that as long as I have the brandy in my inventory, I can have a constant 900/900/900 (and even more for that extra 8 minutes)


Okay.. a double muon with no downer, it's not illegal.. the higher price is well worth it, since you get so many charges. For 250k per crate, I get 25 crated brandies each with 22 sips. That's a total of 550 sips or 450 per sip.


Looking at it this way, Ican find a master dancer and a master musician (if I'm lucky).. then pay10k each to sit there for 20minutes of downtime and end up getting a moderately better buff that lasts for 2 hours and goes away when I die.


OR


I can stay buffed on one brandy for the entire 2 hours for 1.8k, it takes no downtime to use, and if I die during the two hours I can just reapply it without having to find a rare master dancer + master musician. Alternatively, spend the same amount, stay buffed for 900/900/900 for 4k per 2 hours, never have any preperatory downtime, and reapply it when lost.


Looks like the dancer/musicians have more to worry about than the smugglers because drugs are still cheap, quick, and portable but not everyone canhave a dancer/musician in their pocket.


Message Edited by AcidRaineV on 02-18-2004 01:35 PM




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Jowab
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:55 pm
#34

Actually Brandy is cheaper than muon. Muon is about 320 cred per use. You need about 3 of that to cover 45 minutes. So it's 960 per 45 minute. That same time can be covered by 1 BE enhanced brandy for 500 cred (price I got my crate for), with no down time at all.
AcidRaineV
Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:04 am
#35



Actually Brandy is cheaper than muon. Muon is about 320 cred per use. You need about 3 of that to cover 45 minutes. So it's 960 per 45 minute. That same time can be covered by 1 BE enhanced brandy for 500 cred (price I got my crate for), with no down time at all.






No, overall BE brandy will not be cheaper than muon at all. If you really got yours for 500 cred per use, then you got a great deal and its not one that everyone will be able to get. Muon will always be the cheaper, dirtier mind solution.




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WayneInAustin
Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:49 am
#36

Thanks, Sandzibarr... the minute I saw your name I thought ... That's who it was!


In reality, I find the analogy too amazing to be just coincidence!


I may have to go change my sig now....




____________________________________________
Way'ev-Da on Eclipse
Came to life in Restuss, on Rori, 07/03/2003
Master Rifleman 10/18/2003 - present
Master Smuggler 1/25/2004 - 11/05/2004
Dancer buffs + Muon + Musician Buffs + Vasarian Brandy = Sex, Drugs, Rock&Roll, and Alcohol(Man, I love this job!)


Sandzibarr
Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:51 am
#37






WayneInAustin wrote:





Robogrowl wrote:

..... Its just now in addition to being a druggie, i'm an alcoholic too....


My friends are getting worried about me, i feel an intervention coming soon







Like one of our long-time contributors said in another thread (Tez.. was it you? I'm drawing a blank here):
Between the Master Dancer lap dances formind buffs, the Muon Gold,the Master Musician mind buffs, and the Vasarian Brandy,Rifleman must now be into sex, drugs, rock-and-roll and alcohol to survive!


WOOT! I ain't NEVER leavin' this profession!








nah its my claim to fame Wayne



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WayneInAustin
Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:30 am
#38

Thanks, Sandzibarr... the minute I saw your name I thought ... That's who it was!


In reality, I find the analogy too amazing to be just coincidence!


I may have to go change my sig now....




____________________________________________
Way'ev-Da on Eclipse
Came to life in Restuss, on Rori, 07/03/2003
Master Rifleman 10/18/2003 - present
Master Smuggler 1/25/2004 - 11/05/2004
Dancer buffs + Muon + Musician Buffs + Vasarian Brandy = Sex, Drugs, Rock&Roll, and Alcohol(Man, I love this job!)


kirstar
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:32 am
#39

i find that moun fills me up now



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