Rifleman Archive

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Xytroncore wrote:

lol I love this thread, killing krayts/AT-ST's/nightsister elders all without anything ever attacking you...wow, you guys sure aren't overpowered at all /sarcasm.

And whoever said that a combat medic could kill a nightsister elder lol...you know they do have ranged attacks eh, and they'll blow up your speeder...but let's say we "could' kite one after we put poisons and diseases on it, well, compine our best poisons and diseases together and it may tick for a combined 1500 damage every 6-10 seconds. they have what? 300k HAM? lol, we'd have to be kiting for a few hours, and in that time somehow not get our swoop destroyed right from under us. No, a combat medic can't solo one of these things.

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well perhaps if you had read through, I myself don't think it's possible to do this as a rifleman. First, I think elders have 100% resists to all of our damage types (not positive on this). Second, even if it wasn't 100% it is high, and conceal shot would take considerably longer than a bleed+kite approach. Not to mention if you used conceal shot you can't miss 2 shots or something like that, I'm not a conceal shot expert. So in the 1 million shots or whatever it would take you couldn't miss twice.

I do not think it is possible for a rifleman to solo an elder unless they bled and ran for a long time, just like any other profession in the game.

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Skel Etor
Valcyn
Master Sharpshooter

I just examined the elder in the spiderclan cave, here are her resists:

heavy armor

kinetic 80%, energy 100%, blast 85%, heat 80%, cold 100%, electricity 100%, acid 90%, stun 100%

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Skel Etor
Valcyn
Master Sharpshooter

In order to put this to rest...

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=31737&poll_id=0&warned=y

Spider Clan's and Nightsister's aren't the same beast.

Ha'ole

Kettemore

Master Sharpshooter

Nightsister Stalkers, Protectors, and Spellweavers are the one's with 100% resists to everything but Kinetic, Blast, and Restraint. Only way I have killed them is to bleed them down then give them a whack on the head with one of their lances that I looted earlier. Not certified to use it, but if they have their mind at 1 then you do enough damage with it to kill them, plus the AI has them walking away from you when they're near death. I think the Elder's are 25% Energy resist. Except for the random bleeds associated with conceal shot, they are doable in a semi-reasonable amount of time (not quick, but probably an hour or so, maybe less). Unfortunatley I have only seen them surrounded by the 100% resist sisters . Just another case for fixing the Tusken Rifle, because in order to do the Singing Mountain Clan quests you have to kill the varieties of Nightsister's we can't touch without the above tactic. Now, the 298k HAM NPC Dark Jedi Knights with 90% resists across the board... THAT took forever! But, to the point of this thread, Conceal shot is the only way to go on some of these if your not buffed and don't have Strafe 2.

Ha'ole

Kettemoor

Master Sharpshooter

I think you are wrong about the elders being 25% resist to energy, I will check next time I see one, but I was shooting at one in the spiderclan cave and not doing any damage, so I think they are 100%. I'll check again though.

Also, if they are 100% resist conceal shot won't do you any bit of good.

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Skel Etor
Valcyn
Master Sharpshooter

You might be right, I have only examined one Elder, and it was 3 weeks ago or so. Twenty Five percent is what comes to memory, but I could be off. I do remember thinking to myself that it was kinda odd that they are doable via conceal shot while the lesser Nightsisters weren't, so I am pretty confident that the resist is somewhat less then 100%. And yeah, I didn't mean to imply that 100% resist stuff could be conceal shotted, sorry if it came across that way.

Ha'ole

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UWSkeletor wrote:

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Tule wrote:
Wait till you're master and you can take down nightsister elders or krayts with 300k+ ham with conceal shot =) That's when it really gets fun.

Tule

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have you ever done this Tule? I thought elders were 100% resist to energy, cold, and stun, so what weapon did you use? Also, I think it would take 3-4 hours to conceal shot an elder, I've never used conceal shot (ok, once when I first got it, before the BAF mobs were changed to not BAF, and well, yeah, I was a little disappointed with my "conceal" shot), but I thought that if you missed twice the elder would aggro, so you'd have to not miss in the million shots it would take, and probably have to go through 2-3 rifles to do this.

I tried to bleed an elder once and run just for fun, even with 2 1000 bleed ticks, it would've taken a long long time to kill that elder, fortunately for me the elder decided it did not want to be bled for hours so used "Cascade of Hatred" on me, one shot and I was done.

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Thanks for clearing up the "elder" issue. So it seems we were both right in regards to that, I knew the spiderclan elder would be impossible, but it had been awhile since I saw the Nightsister elder.

20 minutes though? that still seems pretty quick to me. Conceal is random ham, what's it's damage modifier?

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Valcyn
Master Sharpshooter