Rifleman Archive

A USE FOR CONCEALMENT

small to medium size hunting group. wants to take that lair of 5 rancor... not gona happen? no, wait, rifle ment runs up, starts shooting 1 rancor, retreats back to group, group jumps the now lonely rancor

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Barb-Wire wrote:
but the thing is we can already do that with mindshot. toss a mindshot at 64 meters step back to 80 meters and let it cook till it comes after you.

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Yeah, but this smells like a bug to me, and one that might someday be squashed. And when they squash it, we'll still have the ability to single pull.

What I'm saying is that it opens things up a little for people who don't use pets and who don't want to always use conceal-shot. Also, you can definitely single - pull with a bleed and retreat, then use warningshot until it bleeds out.A very popular and mostly necessary strategy - particularly without meatshields and before you hit master. Also time-consuming and sometimes less direct than I'd like to be.

yup, i don't use pets so this would be very effective for me.

and to the person who had the idea of pulling for a group. well done, that is a brilliant idea. scenario: 3 nightsister protectors and 1 elder. rifleman bleeds the elder, runs to 80m, waits for the bleed to kick in, the elder runs, i run back to the group and pets are sent when she gets in range. now you don't have to worry about the protectors. just sending pets nowadays would aggro the whole group of protectors and elder and you'd have a bunch of dead pets.

some non-master rifle users using conceal shot are getting attacked when not missing and the apparent cause is this conclement pulla single critter shot failing at less than master levels. so if this is the case its a pretty big nerf for the low level rifle users trying to level with conceal shot. i would bet that it will draw creatures on the first shot failing instead of allowing 3 or so before they come after you.

but with the new vehicles one could just MS2 each critter at 64 meters hop ona bike and ride in circles while they bleed out then hop off and AOE attack or autofire each of them once to kill. just a thought.

bleed shots can pull a single target everytime, even a pistoleer with master marksman can do it, all you need is the cover shot ... go prone, take cover.. shoot healthshot1, mindshot, actionshot whatever your bleed fancy, stand and run back a few meters and wait for the damage to start ticking.. presto one lone FS, rancor, piket whatever then you can either yoy with the bleed, set pets, or just use warning shot (if it works)... suppression fire is good if they are getting to close to fast aswell.

You don't need to take cover

i think those both are bugs though.(bleed single pulling and concealshot also rolling for concealment chance) but whatever, you can take out bleed and put in hs2, the scenario remains the same.

and i don't really consider the first bug to be a 'huge concealshot nerf' *provided* it only rolls concealment on the first shot. although if it's a bug it should be fixed.

well... i guess that's me though, i suppose at novice i woulda been pissed, i missed enough already back then.