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actually pre patch i used to concealshot mallocks, if i hit one for about half his health then peaced and got close to him (20-40m) he would attack me without firing a shot.

as for mobs walking directly towards you, you gotta make sure it's a powerful aggro mob. something that stalks and has a huge stalking range. at-sts... voritor hunters... nightsister rancors? really it only happens every time with an at-st or dragoon though.

barb-wire, so when you were killing the group of 3, were you concealshotting or testing that single pull thing? ugh maybe tonight i'll actually get to play and be able to test some things.

hmmmmm

i wonder.... could it be possible that concealshot is also included in the 'rifle concealment chance' rolls and if that roll is failing it is aggroing the mob, regardless of the shot?

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meeuki wrote:

hmmmmm

i wonder.... could it be possible that concealshot is also included in the 'rifle concealment chance' rolls and if that roll is failing it is aggroing the mob, regardless of the shot?

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now that is entirely possible

*edit to my post* 18 mobs total....9 mobs per lair. Not that it really matters in the context, but clarity is always good.

I'd be interested to know if this was an intended change, or a bug that slipped through, like what meeuki is suggesting. I would /bug it in game for now, and see what the devs say....

lets all do some tests of it tonight and see whats up, then we can pm klaw or something.

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meeuki wrote:

hmmmmm

i wonder.... could it be possible that concealshot is also included in the 'rifle concealment chance' rolls and if that roll is failing it is aggroing the mob, regardless of the shot?

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That seems like a good explanation of it.

I used concealshot onseveralbolle bol lairsyesterday. Most of the time they died without causing any aggro, but sometimes the one I was shooting would aggro on me just like what would happen if I used any other shot on it. I was prone the whole time, aggro occurred at ranges between 50 and 64m. It was always a single aggro, never the entire lair. I was not missing any of the concealshots, and I have +95 concealment chance from sniping 4.

well would that mean the concealment roll was succeeding? or else the whole lair would have been on you right? hmmmm confusing.

I have had quite a few fs npcs on danth agro me even though I hadnt missed a conceal shot, Im sure there is a roll involved considering we get a change to conceal or something like that bonus on the sniper line.

on dath last night i fought 15-20 graping spider hunters, and 5 or 6 kamiruths, ... concealshotted all of them and not one aggro'd.

but maybe from being a master my rolls succeeded each time. still, i thought the purpose of the concealment chance was to pull a single mob, so if the roll failed it should make the whole lair attack. but it sound's like this isn't happening to some people. some other roll introduced to concealshot maybe?

I did'nt get a chance to read all the post (srry) but I bet you hit a bleed. There is another post on The Mystery Bleed out. Give it a read.

as far as i've been able to tell (though not from creatues ) if it get within 40m meters it can (not alway's ) agro

i've had problems with rebel commando's agroing cause it seems they'll move towards me when i use conceal shot though the other rebels i.e general trooper etc. just alway's stand there and die for me like good little rebs should anyway's when those that do do come within 40 meters they ( not alway's ) agro on me