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Thread: Krayt Tissues and how it is unfair against rifles

Morbius858
Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:47 pm
#14
Gun Tissues

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E11 1 Tissue

Jawa Ion6 Tissues(1 For Schematic, Requires 5 identical from crate)

Laser 4 Tissues(1 For Schematic, Requires 5 identical from crate)

T21 11 Tissues(1 For Schematic, Requires 5 Identical from crate)

DLT20(sp?)1 Tissue

DLT20a(sp?) 1 Tissue

SG823 Tissues(1 For Schematic, Requires 2 identical from crate)


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Spraystick and Tusken rifle require projectile feed mechanisms which dont take tissues.


if i left out a rifle, sorry




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BaenreGod
Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:33 pm
#15
When you have used a jawa ion with good krayt tissues against someone in stun vuln. composite...you will understand. Also, pistol's blow against armor, their best weapon in pvp is either a s-h-i-t-t-y stun pistol, or something that does practically no damage against armor.



Wulf'gar
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LLJK_Griz
Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:45 am
#16




DarkReaver261 wrote:

Where the heck did you get a 668 dmg T21?


I can find nothing better than like 407 & it was sliced..


Please let me know so I can actually find a decent T21.







That is a HORRIBLE slice. With advanced stock, max unsliced is 395 (plus/minus 10 cos I don't remember exact stats), 35% dmg slice to 533, powerup to 709.



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DarkLurker
Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:46 pm
#17
i want to see someone use krayt tissues in the new disruptor rifles, from the pic of schematic they require 5 blaster handler which would mean you would need 6 tissues. I want a krayt enhanced disruptor rifle /drool



GTSimmo aka Elrohir
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Muthaluva
Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:35 pm
#18

<sigh>


I liked it better when no one played rifle and we were gimped. You remember, back when people felt sorry for us? Now we are uber l33t d00dz and anything we say we *must* asking for a God mode (hmmm, that use to be pistoleers; must suck to be them going from the uber class to the bottom-feeders). Karma, you think?


Maybe I'll go Pikeman instead. Will be more fun than listenting to every other class whine about how over-powered we are.


undeadrooster
Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:06 pm
#19
I think the T21s are fine they way they are, nonKrayt. With that said though, I'd like to see a little higher rate of looted Exceptional weapons.


Hell, they could get rid of Krayt altogether and it wouldn't bother me all that much.



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DVader539
Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:16 pm
#20
I don't think there's a request for more damage, but for reduced Kryat Tissues.



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BaronJedi
Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:56 pm
#21

"I liked it better when no one played rifle and we were gimped. You remember, back when people felt sorry for us? Now we are uber l33t d00dz and anything we say we *must* asking for a God mode (hmmm, that use to be pistoleers; must suck to be them going from the uber class to the bottom-feeders). Karma, you think?

Maybe I'll go Pikeman instead. Will be more fun than listenting to every other class whine about how over-powered we are."




Lol, I agree. These nerf herdersconstantly trolling our boardsare getting quite irritating. The krayt tissue thing has been an issue since long before we were considered "overpowered" (hell novice still isn't that great)but now it is simply us requesting God mode.




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undeadrooster
Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:27 pm
#22




DVader539 wrote:
I don't think there's a request for more damage, but for reduced Kryat Tissues.




Isn't that the final outcome of adding Krayt to a weapon? Faster and more damage? How many Krayt tissues does it take to modify a flamethrower?



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"I swear I did not have sexual intercourse with that Bantha."
Strength of an idea doesn't involve silly things like the truth or logic, you just make proclaimations as loudly as possible without leaving room for compromise.
GarryOwen
Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:26 pm
#23
/screamlikealittlegirl


The Devs are coming to Nerf us! Aaaagh!


/hide

/sob

/soilmyunderwear



I just got my MRiffleman not too long ago, then, MCH, dropped MCH when I couldn't pull out my Kimo when it was fully grown (humph!) and am now going TK cause of stupid holo.


I am quite happy with my low end T21's since I have yet to find a good one on Gorath, plus, I am too stupid to make any money in this game, so I'm poor. But, it would be nice for the T21 to be a bit better, not too much, just somewhat...


Not that I'm complaining or anything. It is now rare the occasion that I loose 1 on 1 pvp ever since I got my M title.


Just my 2 cents


Garry Owen

7th cav baby!


MMarksman/MSharpshooter/ ex-MCH (blah!) /Novice TKA
Nealoc187
Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:40 am
#24

Yeah just what is needed, a way to give an overpowered profession even more power so they can strafe2 a group of 20 for 1000dmg in pvp every second while never missing, while kiting the entire group holding a 30lb rifle out with one hand and burst running away. Great idea.


If you can't kill people now in PvP with the available rifles, you are retarded. Rifleman is more powerful than any other class in the game right now, and so much so that no other class can touch it. Why do you think there are so many bandwagoneers right now?


EDIT: Oh and I almost forgot, you can DB them all from 64m as well, something no other class can do, with your sniper shot. Yes, lets make rifles even more powerful, a wonderful plan. We can then call the game Rifle Wars because instead of 75% of PvPer's being rifleman, 99% will be rifleman.

Message Edited by Nealoc187 on 02-08-2004 12:46 PM



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Junkor
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:08 am
#25

One of my bigest problems with Krayt T-21's is that it would probally not last more then a week or so for me.


Condition degrade seems to be based on damage done with gin, and let me tell you T-21's decondition fast.


I have taken to carrying 2 or 3 spares with me at all times.


-Junkor


veegen
Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:33 am
#26
I am MBH/pistoleer ... and have an alt thatm I am making master rifleman/ master swordsman for mind ownage


Anyways so far I really like rifleman and started lookinbg for krayted guns at no big success. Still I compare with my MBH char with pistols and eventhough I have good krayted scatters with dmg slices and +50 tissues. They are still not comparable in dmg to what a dmg sliced normal T21 will do.


What I propose is that you reduce dmg on rifles (or atleast some rifles like the T21) and then also reduce number on tissues. Because while the rifelmen need tons of tissues to make a krayt gun, they honestly dont need to make krayt guns cuz their guns are so strong in standard versions.


This would actually be a nerf, but really, when all other ranged proffesions have the responsibility of getting krayt tissues to get good guns, why shouldnt riflemen have to aswell? I know this pisses people off but the way I see it T21s are very good, so a dmg reduction is not totally out of place, if and only if, the more dedicated riflemen can get a chance to improve their weponry with krayt tissues (ie. reducing number of tissues needing) to bring em to a more powerfull standard (which they are at today IMHO).


Like I said I have tried a T21 myself and its strong, you know what kinda dmg you can do in PvP..... I am not saying nerf the good rifles, but let players do some work to get good rifles, thats all



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