Rifleman Archive
Thread: How do the rest of the longer term rifle users feel about...
Xors
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:05 pm
#14
I feel like I hate you all still. #1 reason for rifles nerfs are because of bandwagoners 
A'rien
LLJK_Griz
Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:36 pm
#15
Barb-Wire wrote:
LLJK_Griz wrote:
All they need to do is fix the bug that's making us super-hard to hit in melee.
i agree but it isnt just about PVP. PVE is vastly more important than PVP as the majority of weapon users are PVE.
I haven't done any serious PVE since getting master last month. I assume the melee defense bug still applies to PVE?
Also, the melee defense modifier should be lowered significantly. It is currently at +40, only slightly lower than pistoleer's +45. Carbineer apparently has NO melee defense at all.
Ranged classes should have decent ranged defense and low to moderate melee defense. Melees should have good melee defense and low to moderate ranged defense. Giving one class large amounts of both defenses leads to the ridiculous defense stack builds and constant calling for nerfs.
Seflyn
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:13 pm
#16
I've been a rifleman since release so hardly a bandwagoner.
Xors wrote:I feel like I hate you all still. #1 reason for rifles nerfs are because of bandwagoners
A'rien
I heard that the reason for 2.5x melee damage being removed is because TH got killed by a kreetle at rifles 4.
undeadrooster
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:33 pm
#18
I think a 1.5x or even a 2.0x would stiffle the cries for nerf.
jaymind72
Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:03 pm
#19
I would be extremely happy with some KD defense, not much just something, so those **edit** carbineers aren't nailing me at 60+m with a KD anymore reliably.
Barb-Wire
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:08 am
#20
how do you guys feel about asking for our 2.5X melee penalty back to offset some of our power?? i think that we need to do it. i kinda miss the feeling of risk when shooting at something. as it is we are darn near invulnerable to ranged attacks and almost as bad melee wise.
but dont get me wrong i wouldnt want to ask the devs for this back until we see what the rest of the combat revamp entails. but i do want it in the back of the collective mind so when that thing raises its head we have some options to offset their bad ideas.
but dont get me wrong i wouldnt want to ask the devs for this back until we see what the rest of the combat revamp entails. but i do want it in the back of the collective mind so when that thing raises its head we have some options to offset their bad ideas.
Eaca
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:10 am
#21
I agree, and lower our melee defense (or fix the mod so we're not invulnerable to melee attacks when holding a rifle)
DVader539
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:12 am
#22
250% damage for holding a rifle is stupid. I'd encourage a 250% accuracy bonus. That at least makes a little sense.
PyscoJuggalo
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:18 am
#23
I miss it, we definately need something to off set our offense. Hopefully when the combat rebalance comes they will focus on making our defence weak, instead of removing the offense that defines this profession.
Griegette
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:19 am
#24
I would love to get the 2.5x melee dmg back. Either that or anything to make is very weak at close range....reduce accuracy perhaps?
Wabit
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:26 am
#25
personaly i'd like a 1.5x melee... the 2.5x was a little harsh... i do agree that we need some kind of offset...
Wabit
... lmao