Rifleman Archive
Thread: Sorry guys, Rifleman needs a nerf.
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
I hit 400 a shot in PVP spamming Strafe Shot 2, Pistoleers hit 100 per shot, Carbineers fall inbetween both.
Pistoleers have 50 KD defence, Carbineers have 15 KD defence(Might be 10), we have 0.
Carbineers have ranged KD, for 49 SP pistoleers can get a ranged KD + delay, we only have DD.
Where do you see that we are overpowered?
Even firing for 2x the damage over carbineers is stupid (carbineers can't even hit the one sec speed cap by the way)...so if you don't see imbalance then you're just too in love with riflemen...
Im a 2,1,2,2 rifleman i dueled a friend who is a 1,2,4,2 pistoleer i had all of a suit of composite armor on except leggings and helmet. My friend worked me all the rifle attack special i used did more mind damage to me then him. I dont think rifleman needsa nerf.
You keep saying you get beaten at close range by Rifleman. How? I HIGHLY doubt you're fighting some vanilla rifleman. Let me tell you what happens to me.
I get off Lok starport, see a rebel tkm (very easy to spot, they all wear those disgusting doctor robes and a sunguard), I start kiting him and headshot him. Now, bear in mind, I have doctor buffs and musician buffs and a helemt. He closes in, I burst run. He KDs me (not lunge, I got the dizzy) and I'm on the floor, he kills me by attacking my mind so fast I dont even get to pop the fishak and muon.
I find it offensive that a TKM should complain about Riflemen being overpowered
okay what people don't realizer is that it's really easy to kill a riflesman but you got to know how to approch him. if your going to run straight at him your going to get killed plain and simple. what you got to do is run in a path at him hving things block his path untill you get close enough to get to him to hit him. which is 20 meters btw with lunge 1 and2.
this is how i take down master riflesman. the only way they gt me is when i'm not paying attention. which is what snipers do. you have to find away to approach them yes.
and also riflesman speed shold be as slow as when aMHS uses there best weapon which is 2 seconds. which i don't think is any problem at all. i'm fine with it having that delay on sword you barely notice it.
Honestly if you are a TKM and you can't beat a master rifleman you suck at being a TKM. Period.
I've killed many TKMs and I've been killed by many TKMs those that use tactics are usually on the winning side
Rifleman doesn't need a nerf we are just good at doing what we do best, TKM is the same way Just because some tkm used KD dizzy on me before i could get a shot off doesn't mean i come to the TKM boards and whine that TKM needs a nerf. Learn how to play the **edit**ing game before you cry nerf
a) you're an idiot, and
b) maybe he had rifle acc while moving mods and a nice weapon with high acc mods, and
c) you're also an idiot. and
d) you're whining because you got killed by a rifleman who was obvious TOO SMART to get caught in 20m range from you (burstrun = proof he was too smart for you dumb tka), and also
e) you're an idiot, and
f) please SHUT up dummy, because you suck badly obviously and havent the brains to pick up any skill with any ranged weapon at all.
Oh and also, you suck and you're and idiot.
TipsyMcStagger9 wrote:
I was a rifleman before the "beef up rifleman" patch and after.
We got way to powerful. So much accuracy that you can run around at 10m without worries of missing. So much ranged defence and block.. agh. No other ranged class gets so much ranged AND melee defence. Rifleman needs to lose some accuracy and that +40 melee defence. Ohh.. and nerf the Jawa a little bit.
Wow, this is hysterical; this same scumbag troll was trying to start a nerf the Rifleman thread on the main forums.
Here's the link...
Behold what mixing equal parts of boredom and stupidity can create!
QuadLazerX wrote:
I a TKM withADV comp.. 58% energy, with buffs and spice, and food was
at 4k Health, and Master rifleman just ADV strafed me from about 30m, while burst running, shot and hit me times in a row and killed me. Then to wrap it up a ranged DB.. way too overpowered rifleman are.
He hit me everytime he shot 3 times.../sigh
NERF THE RIFLEMAN
I think you have "Rifle Envy" ![]()
One class isn't supposed to win every bloody time, and Rifleman don't.
Play on Tarq, ONE riflemen singlehandedly kills at least 100 imps every day in theed...a mix of pistoleers/commandos/BHs/smugglers/TKs/fencers ...he rarely every dies. And don't tell me that all of us are noobs and non masters of our proffessions because you're wrong, the guy even kills AT-STs....I don't know where you get the idea that master riflemen don't own all the time...
ElectricBlue17 wrote:
Honestly if you are a TKM and you can't beat a master rifleman you suck at being a TKM. Period.
lol thanks Mak....seriously though, the main problem is mod stacking and you know it as well as I do.... but the only way for a TKM to kill a master riflemen is by using the group TEF, end of story, you can't possibly cross 64m (assuming the riflemen doesn't kite) before you're nailed with adv stafe after adv strafe until you're dead.
you can't possibly cross 64m (assuming the riflemen doesn't kite) before you're nailed with adv stafe after adv strafe until you're dead.
And you should be able to do this? Come on man! Seriously.
from realisme's perspective...would you burstrun yourself into a line of a fire?? I think not....use your enviroment.......is it open field? then your screwed...plain and simple(burstrun away instead of towards).....but then again its THE territory for a rifleman.........most pvp happens in an urban territory tho
oh and eh...have a look at all the nifty negotiations and efficiencies of scout and ranger......theres a ton of times I was able to catch a guy just because of those nifty lil bonusses
Onichi wrote:
you can't possibly cross 64m (assuming the riflemen doesn't kite) before you're nailed with adv stafe after adv strafe until you're dead.
And you should be able to do this? Come on man! Seriously.
When FULLY buffed (4500 HAM..all 3 bars) I expect I should be able to burst run and kill him yes....how is that not something fair to expect? I'm more buffed then my opponent, I'm faster then my opponent...