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Anyone thought about doing this? I think it would be a good change.

Good idea. Though I like the idea of it doing a delay instead of KD. Seems just about everyone else has KD. I'd like to be a bit different.

Same here! A delay shot would be very useful, and a nice surprise....

Exactly, since its useless now make it a delay, bang, suprise! you cant shoot anyone.

yes...seems like a super idea.....delay...just as the shot says

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BLAM!* Surprise!!....what huhu where? oh no what to do (delay over) ooh there he is...blast blast blast!

Surpirse Shot + Delay = Big HAIRY NERF!!

It should do something, but if we get that a delay or KD, we'll be nerfed harder than a virgin on prom night. If they make any beneficial changes to it, they should swap it and SniperShot, since a large percentage of people do not PvP.

Now that I think of it, we MAY be able to get away with a 2 or 3 sec delay. But that will just make them want to speed cap us even more.

you forget that if supriseshot is fixed, youde have to do it from prone and cover position...this would be effectily get as close to sniping as it could

well if they did this we would get the edge over the Teras Kasi because the delay would shor them of 3-4 moves(the kd and such) giving us a good amount of time to take them down.

rifleman does have a delay move. if you strafeshot or strafeshot2 someone who is in the cover position, and you force them out of cover, they will be delayed for 10s. granted, it's useless in pve b/c npc's never /takecover and noone is ever even prone in pvp, but it still exists nonetheless!

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Issik wrote:

Surpirse Shot + Delay = Big HAIRY NERF!!

It should do something, but if we get that a delay or KD, we'll be nerfed harder than a virgin on prom night. If they make any beneficial changes to it, they should swap it and SniperShot, since a large percentage of people do not PvP.

Now that I think of it, we MAY be able to get away with a 2 or 3 sec delay. But that will just make them want to speed cap us even more.

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Why would it get nerfed? There are specials that other professions have that causes a 10sec delay. Can't remember off the top of my head but it's either a Smuggler or Pistoleer skill. So it isn't asking for something that is completely unique.

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Issik wrote:

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Smuggler skill, Panic shotI thinks.

But they don't have ap, better accuracy, a 5x cone, a 4x AoE dizzy, some of the highest ranged D available (not sure on that one), guns with 700+ max dam and ap2/3, and the major drawback of thier class wasn't just removed (2.5x melee).We are flirting with the nerf as is, we must be careful. People are catching on about this class...

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Not relevant. A Smuggler can also take up Rifleman and get those abilities. There are a number of professions that have similar special abilities. For example more than one class has a KD. So it isn't without precedent.

I don't think there will be any major nerfs on the combat classes for a bit. Doesn't make sense to spend time nerfing something right now when they are doing a complete combat revamp. Seems like a waste of effert unless it's an exploit or gamebreaker.

Add in the requirements, as some else suggested, that SurpriseShot with delay can only be done from prone while using TakeCover. This would help mitigate any view that it's overpowered. Though I'm sure you'll find some that would still call for it. Probably the same that think that Chef is overpowered because they can incease peoples stats.

I don't see any harm in asking for it as part of the combat fix. The worst that can happen is the Devs say no.

Lol... if we will not be given a KD or a delay, what do you want rifleman to be, some god prof?