Rifleman Archive

Thread: Sure, go ahead and nerf us

Otik
Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:05 am
#1

People whining everytime I kill them in pvp. I am a dabbler with 193 ranged defense at 173 melee defense. All I do is pvp, and without that I'm just as good as anybody else.


Why can't I be better? Why are BH's better than most classes? They spend 233 skillpoints on their template and they use that as an excuse to nerf others when they are beaten in pvp. MBH's lose every time to me and they whine that I should be nerfed that they miss me a couple times. My template costs 250 skill points. Give me one reason why I should lose to someone who spent less?


Go ahead, nerf rifleman, nerf mod stacks. I'm all about pvp and I'll always find a waya round it. In my opinion rifleman are not overpowered at all. Back when I was a fencer I owned them all the time. Even the dabblers. Melee got their bonus to hit on rifleman, I have 190 melee defense with modded clothing on and fencers own me all the time all because of that defense mod. And their stupid dodge.


people whine that I cannot be hit and it's just unfair that way. I've dueled someone with my same template but more ranged defense. Also a rifleman and I've killed him several times in a duel. I won't exactly say how. But there's a way u can lower ur target's defenses(and no it's not an exploit). If u're fighting a rifleman, duh get close to mess with our accuracy if u're ranged. If you're melee do the opposite, it's called reverse kiting. Wait behind a corner or stay in doors, wait for them to get near u until they are close enough for u to linge them, kd, or even just basic attack on them. I laugh at melees in pvp who chase me head on. Then whine about a nerf after I 3 shot them in the head.


So go ahead and nerf my dabbled template, I showed u how it's not unfair in anyways. Some people wanna be fully combat and others want to be crafter/combat or combat/medic. That's their choice, we shouldn't suffer for that. Nerf rifleman to 3.0 speed and whatever else they wanna do.


Hell, I'll go pikeman and take down a MBH. I learn new tactics when I pvp enough with the same skill to win. And I'd laugh if I'd ever see a NERF Pikeman thread. LoL





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DangerousToSociety
Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:17 am
#2

whiners should just move along... they're a waste of time to talk to



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maddogs
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:20 pm
#3

ya thos ppl who give nasty tells i just say /ignor


it realy pees them off when they msg you nad it says your not online but you come right up and kill them agen and as the are cursing you out u cant hare them its butifull i tell you babys need to be given the /ignor


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vonbraat
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:38 pm
#4




RaccaBoo wrote:

Yup your's is a really awesome pvp temp. I agree likeyou if someone want's to use all thier pts to make them fully combat as you have you should be able to. I do think that other professions need ways to have more accuracy to compensate with the stacked defenses.


As it stands TKM and Master rifleman have the best accuracy in the game. Other professions should get higher accuracy then to be able to hit the crazy stacked defenses if they want. But a pistoleer/crafter should not be as effective as someone such as you.






what are you doin here? I forbid you to go rifleman... so don't get any ideas


[starts writing "nerf pikeman" thread]


oh and great post btw



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Otik
Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:57 pm
#5






RaccaBoo wrote:

Yup your's is a really awesome pvp temp. I agree likeyou if someone want's to use all thier pts to make them fully combat as you have you should be able to. I do think that other professions need ways to have more accuracy to compensate with the stacked defenses.


As it stands TKM and Master rifleman have the best accuracy in the game. Other professions should get higher accuracy then to be able to hit the crazy stacked defenses if they want. But a pistoleer/crafter should not be as effective as someone such as you.






Couldn't agree more.



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because there is no patch
for human stupidity"
T-Bone78
Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:04 pm
#6

doesn't Aiming help bypass all the dodge and block type modifiers?



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godiszed
Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:18 pm
#7

See, now that's the right attitude. If your going to pvp, using one combat class is stupid. (unless you're holo grinding) People need to quit whining and just pick up other classes with better ranged defense mods, it's common sense.
RaccaBoo
Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:22 pm
#8

LOL vonbraat I've always loved snipers. I can't drop my skills for it or I would.



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Voradorex
Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:23 pm
#9

I couldn't agree more! This game is made up of way tooooo many 10 years who b*tch nerf everytime they lose. Everytime i kill someone and the send a tell saying your a cheap ^%**()$@ sob and i cant wait for you to be nerfed, my /reply is "grow up".....

SilverLobo
Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:04 pm
#10

Sorry to tell you bud, but Melee/Range D does not stack, hasnt stacked sence the stealth nerf on the 24th of December.
Otik
Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:31 am
#11

Silver, come to tarquinas and watch me duel a master BH. They do strack, only a blind person wouldn't see that.


They DO NOT stack for TKA though, I'm guessing only certain classes got the nerf. Go ahead and test it. almost 200 melee and ancient bull rancors can't touch me witha rifle out. With VK out I'm 3 shotted. It's been tested many times.


And yes, AIMing does help get through defenses, but there is another way....


Eh, I'll let the secret out...


STUN'EM




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Master Swordsman
"I am a Social Engineer,
because there is no patch
for human stupidity"
RaccaBoo
Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:15 am
#12

Yup your's is a really awesome pvp temp. I agree likeyou if someone want's to use all thier pts to make them fully combat as you have you should be able to. I do think that other professions need ways to have more accuracy to compensate with the stacked defenses.


As it stands TKM and Master rifleman have the best accuracy in the game. Other professions should get higher accuracy then to be able to hit the crazy stacked defenses if they want. But a pistoleer/crafter should not be as effective as someone such as you.




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Melt- AHAZI Stomp Crew on the Bloodfin Server
The Adventures of Fahd Krath
Give me a one star if you have no life and are a complete looser.
SilverLobo
Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:13 am
#13

Otik defenses do not stack.


In your post you prove it without a doubt. Remember Rifleman had their 2.5x damage multiplier REMOVED in exchange for melee types to have a bonus to hit, this is not happening correctly, it is bugged. You are enjoying a bug and thinking it is your defense.


Have you asked youself why this does not work with ranged defense? Take any Master Rifleman and test their to hit percentage. When I did my accuracy tests months ago using my defensive template I posted it here. A Master Rifleman had roughly 50% chance to hit me at optimal range and about 30% and point blank. If you did that test today it is closer to 90% at any range.


Lastly why I know it is a bug? I had to fight for 2 days to get my account back because of a suspension all because of my template. When I proved to them it was the game they said they would be nerfing it, 2 days later they did.

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