Rifleman Archive

Yo can ya tell us if there is a nerf coming ause i wanna be prepared for it. Cause we actually fixed and i don't want it to change at all. We been getting alot o love latley and i know that usually happens before a nerf.

There is no "nerf" coming that I've been made aware of.

However, there is a large combat, weapon, and HAM system coming into place that will be very interesting.

3 sec cap might as well = nerf

because we all know they are gonna botch it

Eh, we can hope it's not that bad, and thats about it. Just as long as we get more range I'm happy.

I wrote this when i was drunk lol. But now I am a little more sober well anyway i hope they don't do one cause its one o the few classes in the game that is fixed and good.

I wish my typing was that clear when I am drunk

Thunderheart will tell NOONE that the nerfs are coming, not even our correspondant. If you believe that there won't be nerfs "because out correspondant didn't tell us they would be nerfing us", you are naive.

The correspondant knows almost as little as we. In the rare cases that he knows more, he usually is not allowed to talk about this stuff.


And yes. 3 second cap could be considered a NERF. Probably one of the biggest ones in SWG.

man you guys with your **edit**ing 3 second speed cap.

point me to one post. just one **edit** post where implementing a 3 second cap for rifleman was mentioned as a change being considered anytime in the near future. cmon, one dev post.

oh wait cause you can't. why? there's no such post. huh? then why do people keep talking about it?

beats the hell out of me!!!

history lesson for you.....

1 dev mentioned this, ONCE, in passing, as a cause and effect result of upping our damage.it was mentioned in conjunction with the inclusion of chainging specials together to produce combination damage effects, and a bunch of other theory/proposalstuff. NONE of which has ever been mentioned as happening anytime soon. it was a HUGE post and there were a billion other balances that were considered.

and what became of these proposals? you tell me. but has any of it been implemented? no. was the ham changes we are about to see part of these proposals? no. why? cause it was just tossing out an idea!!! there's no nerf coming! if you want to find something to whine about dig up information on the ham changes, throw out wild speculation about the ham changes, go to test center and actually test the ham changes. but shut up about the non existant speed cap already!!!

this was posted on september 18th. (if i could make that sept. 18th blink and marquee i would, maybe it would help) here is the thread link

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=565036#M565036

here is the quote in question

"My proposal is that we implement a variable speed cap based off of the weapon. So pistoleers and 1hswords would use a .5 second speed cap, while riflemen/pikemen would have a 3 second minimum speed.

The end result is that weapon/class differentiation would increase, which would allow me to enhance the functionality of each class. I could raise the damage on carbines/rifles because I would be guaranteed that they wouldn’t be fired as quickly as pistols. The DPS problems in pistoleer could be minimized by increasing the speed mods, as they would have more total effect on the firing speed."

Dear meeuki,

before you go around on this board, yell **edit** things and insult people, why don't you read through at least the six pinned threads that we currently have. If you do that, you will find among them this thread:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=34880

It is a thread posted on December 22nd, by our very correspondant, who informs us that the **edit**ing 3 second speed cap is, I quote: "floating on the new systems coming".

This is the post where it is said. Not by a dev, but I assume you won't be naive enough to think just because the devs didn't tell us about it it won't happen.



So go read that post. Then read your post here again. Then take some time and think.

If after that yous till want to come here and shout and tell us to shut the **edit** up, you are welcome. We won't shut up anyway, ut if it makes you feel better...

You can be sarcastic as much as you want to. You will still be wrong.

You point was that there was no such post talking about a 3 second cap. You asked for one to be showed to you.

I showed you one. No, it's not hard evidence. But the post is there, and if that is an idea they are discussing on the correspondant forum now, it's about as real information as we will get before a nerf hits.


I fail to get your point. You are just ranting as pointlessly as I do. The only differece is I rant against the devs, you rant against other players. Take your pick what is better.

well actually i was ranting against spreading misinformation. i'm going to continue to do so. whether it be another 'concealshot nerf' post or whatever.

and your 'evidence' came from klaw and is definately up for interpretation. i dont recall ever reading a post from him specifically saying that a developer has mentioned to him the possibility of the 3 second cap. every single post has been in response to our bitching about it, which was in response to the sept. 18th theory thread written by pall.

but i could be wrong! i only checked his posts back to november.

like:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=31331&highlight=#M31331

"Rumor. But, there is some serious changes coming. I'll be fighting to make sure this is not apart of the changes." (in response to a question as to whether the 3 second cap was rumor or actual discussion)

wait rumor there? but 28 days later it's gone from 'rumor' to 'up in the air'. k.

but wait!! klawcanbe wrong occasionally too:

"Again, I don't like making comments without the facts. I have heard that it will be gone but, I'm waiting on an offical response from Keldarin." (in response to a question asking if concealshot was being taken out)

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=31307&highlight=#M31307

i just logged in and noticed concealshot was still there. wait, what? but klaw heard it was gone! yeah, and the 3 second cap is "up in the air."

my point?

we haven't heard crap about this 3 second cap since sept. 18th. the fact that not a single other change from that post has made it in the game is evidence enough that they don't intend to just arbitrarily toss out a cap on our speed. so let's just stop with the sky is falling posts. your'e scaring the n00bs.

You are so right. I am so wrong.

Things are only true and will only happen when our correspondant explicitly tells us, or when Thunderheartposts here.

Btw, when you checked his posts, did you notice that our correspondant hardly gives any information at all, and always seems to be in "reaction mode"?



Anyway. Sarcasm aside. I'm sorry for this discussion. Yes, you have a point. we don't know for sure.

I personally think that the little piece of info our correspondant cared to give us about this sounds pretty much like it is being discussed. I may be wrong. We will never know, until Klaw takes a break from playing Jedi and tells us. Until then, I'll not push this topic (or you personally) anymore. Have a nice new year.

Heh, yeah, now that you mention it, it does seem like the 3 second speed cap has become the Rifleman "boogeyman". I guess we'll have to wait and see what changes are actually going to happen before wedive under our beds and hide....

PS - Meeuki = SilverLobo reborn
( I mean that as a compliment. Silver is the only perosn on this forum who would tell all of us when we were full of **edit**. And he was usually right. )