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Thread: Cross-server citizen swap to get around the 10 person cap

Imador
Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:41 pm
#92






Rogue1970 wrote:

Simple solution:


Votes don't count unless the player played a minmum of an hour that week.





yea just what we need one more thing to track and cause more performance problems and lag.
Chelsar
Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:40 am
#93

I'm still game. Contact me on the Gorath server. Have a city of about 30 residents that would do a swap =)


How is this fair to the people who actually play on the servers that you're swapping to? That's 30 extra structures that would otherwise not have been built. Those structures are going to add to the database load for that server and cause more lag at a time when people on some servers are already experiencing tremendous lag.


What if everyone lot-swapped for harvester slots? Then we'd all be using many times the number of lots per account that we're supposed to have. We'd have vast fields of harvesters, and legitimate players would have a hard time gathering resources. Nobody would like that. This is just as bad or worse.


UO eventually had to go to a per account house limit. If you guys keep this up, they'll probably switch from 10 lots per server to 10 lots per account eventually if needed.


City dwellers already are getting more access to land than people who don't want to live in cities. Why do you guys have the right to 10 or more times land than everyone else? Why should people who don't even play on my server be able to helpothers restrictmy access to theland on my server?


CptCox
Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:39 am
#94

I just started Lot-Swapping last night, I'll give this some thought...



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Wolfbane9999
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:05 am
#95

flame me if you want but i think this idea is utter crap. you aren't creating a community, you are creating something to benefit only yourselves.



i dont care how small my city is, i have nearly 20 myself with 8 more signing up today but at least i can gladly say i know each one of them, i know they will be there for me as ill be there for them and we go on hunts...


a city is a community and it disgusts me that you people are doing this to beat the system.




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Sykes
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:23 am
#96

Do this if you wish.


I hope you enjoy having 50 citizens and 7 people to pay for your whole town. Your city will look like Detroit eventually, where buildings are all over, and nobody walking the streets. Abandoned harvesters burning and Chubas roaming free in the streets.




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Gron_DM
Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:13 pm
#97

vilance or gronn on corbantis, tatooine.



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Thunderheart
Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:57 pm
#98

Well this is a concern, and I will bring it up with the CSRs, but there is a couple things to remember here.


One, talk is cheap. Jumping servers, putting up a house, paying for maintenance and voting every week is a bit of a hassle. 20-30%+ of the people doing this will fade away. After that, you'll lose another 20-30% over a couple of weeks because the hassle will become a hassle and it will get skipped. Beyond that, votes will be missed and there will be slip ups and this will be harder than it appears to be.


If it becomes a problem and it falls within policy, then CS will gladly help.




Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
Vandessa
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:03 pm
#99

Well that depends..


1. The new homes can be granted admin rights to the mayor and said mayor can maintain the fee if they so chose.


2, You don't have to vote for the incumbant. So once the mayor you like is in, you don't even have to be on the server anymore.




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Thunderheart
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:07 pm
#100

Like I said, I will bring it up...



Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
Dayln
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:11 pm
#101

Problem is,


Votes automatically go to the incumbent. Which means that all that needs to happen is to have the person set a house down and declare residence and make the mayor the admin, He pays the pay maintenance and gets automatic votes.


Maybe we could make this more difficult by saying that anyone that does not spend more than 5 hours on line with that character during a week, their vote does not count that week. Or something else similar to deter this kind of muleing.

AntiXryst
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:20 pm
#102

Or you could change it back to 5 from 10 so all the work that I have done (along with many others) won't be in vain. That would be appreciated.




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JediPhr33k
Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:31 pm
#103

I would say at least wait a week or two and see what happens.
SunzsuMonk
Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:51 pm
#104

Ok, I am kinda bummed about this problem..but i don't see many really doing it, and even if, most I know that have have 3 max "ghost" houses. And that was only done because of SOE bumping there city limit soon after stating 5. I am sorry, but I do not want auto-vote gone, I mean some of my City member have lives, and do not even show up sometimes at all a week. Others log in about 5min, stock a vendor then leave. PLEASE SOE, when you look into this, DO NOT HURT THE REAL PLAYER! I mean I should not have to worry about my mayor not staying in because the snobby guys in town wnat a new mayor, and people are not online. Please don't make us all have to be power gamers. I myself play once a week, thats it. I have a job and other RL issues. I highly enjoy this city idea, and I would hate for one good thing here to go bad over this. This is surely not going to an issue anyhow. I have seen alot of cities and most seem full of people. I also would like to think that if the limit is kept at 5 this problem will vanish. Just my 2cents..
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