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Thread: question on /cityban
Also. on a regular basis, we take part in the primary objective of our current location. Yes I am afraid your city is a side effect that we would rather not have to deal with. If your city was not here, we would be able to direct all of our efforts and resources to the primary objective of harassing imperials in the hills around the Emperors retreat. We would be able to place and enact objectives and patrol and destroy all At-sts, dark troopers and storm troopers in the hills, and scan for and hunt down imperial players who seek to endear themselves with the emperor by doing his missions. Currently your city represents a future cloning site for these imperials who will then be back in the hills assisting the emperor and fighting our brave rebel troops, who are already outnumbered, 10 times quicker than they would if they were forced to reclone back in Moenia as is currently the case. Now you see that the importance of the threat you represent goes well beyond trade in the normal sense into numerous GCW factors.
Beyond these details I am afraid the rest is classified within our PA and will not be divulged.
Now perhaps you can understand the brevity of the situation that you have blundered into.
Zubzai wrote:
Isnt this fun!
Constellation City is close to our own housing base. It is largely inhabited by stinking imperials, and it will never have peace this close to us or in this area of Naboo. Moenia is a place of rebel influence. If Jaspor maintains control of his city by wining thevote, thenI say well done to him; but I say this. This is only phase one. We will fight,kill, destroy and strategically enbattle imperials in this part of Naboo for ever. Constellation will be targetted by raids, minefields, scanners, maybe even turrets. We will use everything at our disposal to fight the stinking agents of the Emperor and we absolutely will not stop!
now thats gameplay!
And so, 2 months from now all cities will be Rebel Cities. Solely because there are 63% more Rebels than Imps...something that in the current SW timeline just isn't legitimate, logical or right.
This is why the game is going to ****. Devs need to fix the factions to be true to the timeline or everything in this game is going to be rebel. As it is on Ahazi, Rebels have placed cities right outside every stinking POI they can think of...solely to block access to Imperials.
I guess some might see this as "Roleplaying." To me, it looks more like "Griefing."
Limbonik
Actually. I will admit I was a little angry when I wrote that post. It is a little bit over the top;but the principles remain true. However you have raised a very valid point. The Devs really do need to address this total imbalance. I really hope they do. I want to be outnumbered by imperials as is right for the timeline.
Perhaps those of us who are staying true to our side of the timeline history will encourage the Devs to sort this out. I hope so. Because if they dont, the situation that has arisen on Ahazi will spread to all the servers as you say.
Having said that, I will not change my take on the situation without betraying my own view of how a rebel colonel should behave. So it is up to the Devs and the new GCW correspondent to sort this imbalance out and soon!
Sorry Jaspor but once again you are cheating(the proof is below). Using cityban to keep people out of the city hall(which I believe is a civic building) to vote is pretty sad and pathetic. Why can't you and others who use exploits and simply use the excuse "but it is apart of the game"just play fair. Any reasonably intelligent person could tell that the cityban command was obivously not something the devs intended to do. You seem like a pretty intelligent and mature person and it's a shame you have to resort to such obivious(oh come on, you can't tell me you knew itwasn't an exploit)cheaptactics to try to remain in power.A city is not a PA's personal little play toy,anybody can join any city that they wish. Just like in real life, heck I can move to any city I wish. I can understand if a group of people went into your PA and decided to take it over, now that is wrong. Butonce again the city is notthepersonal property of a PA.It is up to the mayor to use his intellect and wit toensure he remains in power(instead ofusing exploits).Anyway here is the proof of your wrong doing.
Jaspor wrote:
So now, what we did, call us frickin crazy, we used the /cityban command on people around our town who have been part of this hostile group admitting they want to take us over. Hey, guess what. It seems the /cityban command sometimes prevents people from getting into City Hall and voting. So now they are (yet again) accusing us of exploiting and cheating.
So, Plinka, if you are reading this, can you please tell me how a command that made it into the game as a main feature of the whole Player City implementation could possibly be illegal and an exploit?
Plinka wrote:
Since there are no public patch notes yet, I can't talk about the non-visible changes to cities on Test Center. However, I can share two of the changes I've tested:
1. You can no longer use structure related slash commands in civic buildings. This means you can no longer make civic buildings(city halls)private. That was never intended. Any currently private civic buildings will be made public.
2. You can no longer register a city of rank less than 3 on the planetary map. Any city of less than rank 3 currently on the map will be removed from the map. Any city that falls below rank 3 will be removed from the map.
My replies to your replies!
"You reply to CSR-timv, "That's why we reported him for exploiting, he said the wanted all the XP and he proved that to us"
HUH? Jaspor OFFERED to let your politician in at the beginning of this farce to gain xp in addition to members of your guilds.
"If he was banned while not a resident then the Mayor/owner will have to unban him." CSR-Davidv says. thank you. DUH!!!! I said that in EVERYONE of my other posts!!!
"You reply to CSR-timv, "Paying people from other servers to move in and since we don't have zoning rights we can't get in." Prove it. You are making allegations without proof. Not true once again! We have screenshots of a player in your city SAYING that he was a friend from another server who got paid to come over and help. Don't worry, we'll post those screens too!
"You reply to CSR-timv, "Thank you, but please don't let him harass me for contacting you." (referring to Jaspor) Um...WHAT??? Jaspor has NEVER harassed anyone. In fact I think it was you fellows that assassinated him when he was trying to negotiate in good faith... assassinated? A rebel killing an Imperial OMFG!!!!!! When he was killed, no one even talked to him, he followed the players ourside the city. Negotiate, maybe he was coming to talk peace with those players, but never the less he's an Imperial THEREFORE BY DECLARING TO THE FACTION, he made himself OPEN to PVP at ALL TIMES. He was careless and got suprise attacked.
I could probably find more instances of outright lies and fabrications, but why bother? This fully depicts your group as it should be.
Now, here's what my opinion: You guys are pathetic. You have no honor, no integrity and are completely untrustworthy. You accuse Jaspor and GotZ of cheating and exploiting yet you bald-faced lie to the CSRs.
READ PLINKA POST!!!!!!!! It says right there stickied at the top of the forum that this was a bug and not intended. THEREFORE, since it kept people from voting, giving all the XP to Jaspor, it is considered an exploit because he's using a bug to further his character. (by getting all the voting XP) When will anyone in GOTZ admit they were wrong about this?
For myself, I will not bother with anymore posts here. It's not worth my time as you are actually helping me. Every time you guys post some "evidence" you only end up supporting GotZ. Keep it up boys, you're doing a great job!
Oh no!! Please comeback. I want to see you admit that you were wrong about it being a bug. Oh please oh please, I'll get a good laugh out ofit because OH WAIT you were wrong. (Big suprise though)
hallauer wrote:
READ PLINKA POST!!!!!!!! It says right there stickied at the top of the forum that this was a bug and not intended. THEREFORE, since it kept people from voting, giving all the XP to Jaspor, it is considered an exploit because he's using a bug to further his character. (by getting all the voting XP) When will anyone in GOTZ admit they were wrong about this?
Uhm, I said this several times. And I'll say it again: The /setprivacy command was lifted as soon as it was confirmed as exploit. It was my mistake for using it. I'm sorry I did. I was wrong to use /setprivacy on the City Hall. When Plinka said it was an exploit, I removed it. When the CSR reponded to your ticket about it, he found it already lifted.
However, what I will not admit we were wrong about is banning NON-CITIZENS. Post all the screenshots you want and scream and whine as much as you possibly can, and oh yeah, open a few more dozen CSR tickets in-game, but the fact of the matter is, no matter what you guys say: We banned players who were NOT CITIZENS AT THE TIME. Go on test center. Get yourselves a city there. Try using /cityban on a citizen. The command does not work, and has never worked. We tested this on OURSELVES the minute the Militia was formed. When you try /cityban on a citizen, you get a message "You can not ban citizens from your city!" and it does not work.
I wish there wasa CSR out there or a fellow Mayor from another server or city that could please back me up on this. What happens when you try /cityban on a citizen? Will you please tell these players who insist that we're cheating (yet have no access to the commands they accuse us of abusing, and therefore have no idea how they work) that /cityban does NOT work on citizens? They became citizens AFTER they were banned. And, if they are not supposed to be able to become citizens once banned, then perhaps it is you guys using the exploit.
I'm sick of reading these lies and fabrications of the truth. Don't you guys have a city to build and an alliance to run? It's kind of sad that your entire in-game (and out-game it seems, telling by how much you guys post here and how quickly you respond to messages addressing this) existence now revolves around trying to ruin our FUN and destroy our city. The GCW excuse has been beaten into the ground, and nobody is buying it. This is borderline harassment now.
Obviously you didn't read my previous post, so I'll report it.
"It is NOT an exploit to ban someone BEFORE they put the house down because they're not a citizen yet. But if there house is already down and they get banned thus preventing them from voting, that is the exploit and that's what was done. There wasa player who got banned before he moved in. He can't vote, yes we know, jolly good. The issue here was that people who WERE citizens, as we could tell by viewing the city terminal, they couldn't get in to vote. That's the exploit, and that's why the CSR came and unbanned everyone who was listed as a citizen."
I have said ON MANY OCCATIONS, that IT IS FAIR GAME to ban non citizens. Thus when they set their house down, they are banned.
If everybody would re-read the post from Plinka to Jaspor on the /setprivacy of the City Hall, you will see even after TWO posts from Plinka he did not give in....but later released the City Hall the following day.
Explain to me how a GoA member sets a house down in your city to magically become a resident....it doesn't happen so Silverth had to have had a house down previous to the expansion.
And how do you /grantzoningrights to a new citizen to place a house and then ban them before they can vote? What kind of Mayor is THAT?
Since I like seeing myself type, I'll post again!! 
You took down the /cityban yes. Right away? No. But, you did in fact take it down. We ruined the game for you? How? By playing COMPLETELY within the Terms of Service?
Let me break down another point.
IF YOU DECLARE TO BE A REBEL OR IMPERIAL, YOU ARE OPEN TO PVP AT ALL TIMES!!!!
If you get beyotch slapped by some rebs who place an overt scanner, that's YOUR fault YOU DECLARED.
When this happened, Jaspor was a good sport about it, he admitted that he was caught ogg guard and it was a good tactic, but it seems that others in his PA think that it's some sort of Rebel scum treachory.
Whatdo you think a covert scanner is for?
Well, back to trying to recruit people from other servers to move in. There's got to be some servers you haven't swapped with yet.
TAfirehawk wrote:
And how do you /grantzoningrights to a new citizen to place a house and then ban them before they can vote? What kind of Mayor is THAT?
Last post on this subject, since you seem to have some kind of inability to understand how the city mechanics work and how this happened. No clue if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but I'll spell it out for you one more time. 
Silverth and NO GoA members were EVER granted zoning rights (at least not on purpose... You're little spy program worked nicely, rebel scum ). They became unwanted citizens of the city when the radius expanded. As I said a million times, anybody who was banned was NOT a citizen at the time. The command simply does not allow it to happen. Why can't you comprehend that? I have no clue what "lag" between declaring residency you guys are talking about, as I have watched many a citizen place their houses, go in and declare residency, and I IMMEDIATELY get an email saying a new citizen has joined, and they have the ability to vote and show up in the list.
Keep making up stories though, maybe someone else will believe them. 