Politician Archive
Thread: This is not a petition but I WANT MY 1 VOTE EXP!
the biggest problem I have is the fact that this wasnt documented or announced before hand, most of us had plans and that 100 exp loss caused our plans to be shot down. If your not going to add exp for mayors vote then at least give us the exp for this voting period for the lack of information given to the player community.
Cheers,
That is the main point,
Giving yourself free XP is not what they should do. This littel thing doesnt bother me in the least. I would be anoyed if my vote did not count in the election. But the fact that my own vote does not give me XP is in my opinion correct.
Daylan, Being that you just said your own vote should not earn your charicter any xp, I suugest the following to make the entire game fair since Polotician is just so plain easy.
How about all those people in the bounty hunter proffesstion only get XP when group members get kill, I mean come on, Your charicter should not be able to earn thier own XP, oh and medic, and Commando, same thing, since its so terribly easy to get XP. In fact..... Fook It, lets just make it so that everyone in SWG has no way to earn thier own xp. and that they should rely on everyone else to do thier dirty work. Sure it make you look like a better Polo to get all those votes and XP but C'mon, you should at least be able to get XP by your own merrit of voting for yourself. Thats rediculous, and your simply not thinking right.
Worst of luck to your fallen city, if you were even able to start one.
RudyBega wrote:
--We are not talking about counting votes here, we are talking about XP.--
I was in agreement with the majority of the voices here until I read this. You are right. The vote counts (as it should). Your citizen status counts (as it should). But almost all the other professions will not allow you to XP yourself. You can't heal yourself for XP, you can't shoot yourself for XP, and you can't vote for yourself for XP.
Umm you can heal yourself for XP when your starting out as a Medic and you can heal your pets for XP as well. How bout we have it till all skills only get experience points once a week? Then your 100 points shy of hitting master bounty hunter but well crap.. you didnt know that you needed to kill that one last krettle to get your 100xp so now you gotta wait a week to get master bounty hunter? Probably wouldnt bevery happy I would almost bet.
Dayln wrote:
Fatal, I would be willing to bet I have children older than you.
Oh dear god you have offspring... we are all damned.
Yep...Would have gone for a bank...But only got 3400 xp.
Still, for us things went well, so overall not complaining.
That person is using stuff to do it, however maybe you are right, perhaps medics should not get XP for healing themselves.
Dayln wrote:
However he doesnt gain much political experience if he cant convince anyone else to vote for him.
Yes, and 100xp when the first tier skills cost 1000xp isnt very much. So you are right, and therefore our own votes should count. Thanks for proving our point.
Also, by preforming my civic duty in voting, I am influencing others, making them performing their civic duty regardless who they vote for. So I should also receive xp.
Finally, there is more to politicial experience than voting. Forming a city to begin with is a major political move. Granting people zoning rights is a form of politicial xp (I'm not saying we should gain xp for doing that, but it is a form politics). The agruement that our own votes shouldn't count is baseless.
Dayln wrote:
That is the main point,
Giving yourself free XP is not what they should do. This littel thing doesnt bother me in the least. I would be anoyed if my vote did not count in the election. But the fact that my own vote does not give me XP is in my opinion correct.
I think you're missing the point, Dayln. Assuming the politician can vote for himself and get XP, if the only vote a politician can get is his own, it would take 10 weeks for that Politician to get one skill box.APolitician hoping to vote himself to Master level would require over 14 years to accomplish this feat. That doesn't seem horribly threatening to the balance of the game to me.
The point is that all the mayors were cramming people into little 150m circles and stopping cramming when they knew they had enough citizens for XP and city growth to occur. The loss of one vote unexpectedly resulted in several mayors being out a skill box they had promised to their citizens this morning.
This isn't just sour grapes - I was in this situation, but was fortunate enough to read the first reports of the missing vote 17 minutes before my election cycle. It was touch-and-go getting the extra citizen the 6k out to our city, placed and declared in 17 minutes, but we managed with around 10 seconds to spare! So I actually ended up with the right amount of XP, but many many others are having to explain to their citizens why they're missing a skill box and that's not right.
Sydira Katheda
Founder/Mayor - Mos Astravia, Tatooine (Naritus)
Owner - Wings Unfurled Cantina
Syd1, the communication by SOE is really a different thing. I can agree with you there. But personally I agree with the no XP for voting for yourslef. The cramping is a different issue, and we are dealing with that ourselves. Realise that your current mayor does not need a hosue, the town hall acts as such.
Getting just exactly the right number of people to make X experience is not the way I would do it anyway.
Dayln wrote:
Syd1, the communication by SOE is really a different thing. I can agree with you there. But personally I agree with the no XP for voting for yourslef. The cramping is a different issue, and we are dealing with that ourselves. Realise that your current mayor does not need a hosue, the town hall acts as such.
Getting just exactly the right number of people to make X experience is not the way I would do it anyway.
I know I don't need a house. As for not the way to do it, well ... the way the city expands is from the 150m circle out. That means if I want 1/1/1/0 (or more than that, *shudder*) we need to get 30 XP-counting residences in that 150m.
I'm not stating that by itself is difficult. However, our city plan calls for two main thoroughfares meeting at a park district surrounding city hall. By roping these areas off, it is no longer possible to get the needed number of houses in the 150m radius. Therefore we must either change our plan or ask citizens to move later. We had enough people offer to move later that we chose not to adapt the plan. To minimize the number of people inconvenienced, only the citizens absolutely necessary were built in the 150m radius. The rest built in their permanent locations (which are now in the city thanks to the expansion).
It was a little exciting getting that last citizen in with seconds to spare - but it would have been horribly frustrating if we had been 20 seconds less efficient.
Hey All! Warp here!
Wow. What a slap in the face! The same thing happened to our city of Solace. Our mayor had only 2900 xp when she had 30 votes to her name. Although I do understand the logic of Daylin about the politician should notget him/herself xp by voting for themselves, IT IS STILL UNFAIR that NO ONE bothered to inform the players of this GLARING and VERY SIGNIFICANT rule. I'm not even going to start to comment on the poor cities who thought they were in the clear when the citizen count for outpost shot up 5 people at the last minute. Personally I dont think that particular rule should haveapplied to any city halls that were already placed and the citizen count for the previous Outpost requirement fulfilled. Losing a city hall is not like losing spare change. But anyway, this 100xp thing is unfair due only to the fact that no one was informed. Its not even in an offical politician guide on the official site. I think that every mayor should postto make this fact known to all and show how very important it is (especially comming out of the first weeek of elections?!)that our cities be awarded the xp and that we should be kept informed OFFICIALLY AHEAD OF TIME more in the future.
I'm only one voice.
Warp Darkstar
Head Foreman of Solace-Intrepid