Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Yet ANOTHER problem with the DX2

YetiIronfist
Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:11 am
#1

We already know it is hard to make and therefore is more expensive than most comparable weapons.

That due to the resource requirements many servers have even cruddier than possible versions.

That it has crap and / or broken range (how can the accuracy modifier be better at point blank than at the supposed ideal range (which is only 8 meters) !?)

That it doesn't do much damage.

That like the rest of the higher than AP0 weapons, it doesn't work right against vulnerable targets.

Well here's a new problem with it. Check this out:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=19214#M19214

For those that want a summary:

Our "best" weapon - the DX2, requires FOUR Krayt Tissues to enhance, and it can ONLY be enhanced with Krayt Tissue. Both the Scatter and Launcher pistols can be doubly enhanced with both Krayt Tissue and High Velocity Feed Mechanisms, and only require a single Krayt Tissue.

Screwed again...
Dyriel
Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:32 am
#2

The worst problem I have now that I am a BH dabbler with my DX2 is its stupid look.

I fail to imagine something more ugly.


Yeah, I feel balanced
Beery
Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:07 am
#3

If you don't like the DX2, find a nice slicedFWG5 or SR Combat Pistol. They'reall about the same power.



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Dyriel
Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:44 am
#4

Beery, you missed some important point I think : DX2 is ACID based and AP1, FWG5 is HEAT based and AP0 and SR Combat is ENERGY based, AP1.

DX2 is very useful when your target isn't that Acid resistant.


You should consider DH17 or Scout too (nergy based, AP0), Tangle (Stun based, AP0) and Striker (Kinetic based and AP0).


If you have all of those, you are kinda set for any type of encounter.
Beery
Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:50 am
#5

Yeah. I understand all that. But the person who started this thread doesn't seem to be talking about the specific attack strengths of the weapon. His is more of a general criticism of the weapon outside of its specialised use against acid-vulnerable enemies. As such, he should get himself a nice FWG or an SR.



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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
Philosopher1976
Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:27 pm
#6

I think YetiIronfist is 100% right. This does suck.


I would never waste5 tissues on a DX2 -- that's just stupid when I can get a comparable pistol enhanced with a single tissue. Yet another reason that the DX2 totally blows.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


EasyMcRhinopants
Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:52 pm
#7

Well, I just wasted five tissues one getting a DX2 built .


The build didn't go perfect, but the max dmg on the gun, pre-slicing, is about 185 or so, so it's definitely better than a hole in the head.


However, given the dx2's relatively poor performance, it would seem more appropriate if it only required, say, 2 BPH's to craft. (and maybe the scatter and launcher should require 2 as well). That would mean 'wasting' only 3 tissues to make one.

Dyriel
Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:00 am
#8

Oh I see what you mean, sorry.

I think Yeti is a Master Pistoleer so I think he is aware about other pistols. To me, his post was meant to deal with our mean weapon, our special cert that is surely the more screwed one at this time.
YetiIronfist
Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:25 am
#9

Aye. Master Pistoleer currently (could change...)

And yes, I'm well aware of the situations in which a DX2, or any other pistol, is very useful.

My "main pack" primary weapons that I switch through as needed are:

Scout
SR Combat
FWG5
Striker
Tangle
and DX2

The issue here is that the DX2 is THE Pistoleer pistol. It's the only one we get in the Pistoleer tree, it's the last pistol we get a cert for unless we pick up another profession, and therefore it should definitely be the best.

I think that comparing it to the Scatter and Launcher pistols, which are obtained in the exact same manner - the final pistol cert for their respective classes, obtained at novice - is very valid.

Furthermore, I think that the fact that we have less ability to enhance DX2s (can't use high velocity feed mechanisms in them), and what we can enhance costs 4 times as much (4 Krayt Tissues required vs 1), all on a pistol with worse overall stats, is a significant issue and one worth raising.

Now - everyone please stay (or I should say, get back) on topic here. Am I missing something, or is this yet another way in which we've been hosed?
GreenGlowie
Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:25 am
#10

Dx2 requires 5 tissues, 1 for the schematic, and four to go into the pistol from the factory.



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Beery
Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:27 am
#11

If I had my druthers I'd have the SR Combat Pistolas the highest level pistol. It's certainly the coolest-looking, and I kinda resent having the DX2 as the uber-pistol-shooting gunky acid at people seems a bit unwholesome to me. I kinda feellike I'mspitting at them.



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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
YetiIronfist
Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:29 am
#12

GreenGlowie - Yes, it will normally cost you that, but that's a side effect of the fact that it requires four power handlers and the way crafting works - not something that should be changed with the weapon itself.

And you can work around it a little bit by being efficient:

If you were to do two at once, it would only take you 9, not 10 (assuming you had a good drop from a Krayt - 10+ with identical serial numbers).

You could also do an SR Combat and DX2 at the same time so that you'd only need a total of 7 tissues instead of 8, again saving yourself one over doing them separately or using tissue from sparate drops.
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