Pistoleer Archive

Lets face it, commandos and bounty hunters can beat pistoleers 9 times out of 10 in pvp combat. Since the devs are SOOO interested in making everything uber have a drawback to balance everything out, it seems like its a little funny that heavy weapons dont really have a drawback. I'm submitting two ideas that may balance out pistol/carbine/rifles with heavy weapons.

1-Make heavy weapons have some penalty for being used inside. In real life, a bulky and cumbersome weapon would not be as good in a cramped cantina as a pistoleer whos quick and deadly when drawing his blaster. (Remember that guy, Han Solo?)

2-When a heavy weapon is used in pvp, if the target is in a crowd of "innocent bystanders" the shooter gets a TEF to all the bystanders. This way, someone could get "lost in a crowd". That would makepeopleusing heavy weapons have to usesome discretion about when it is okay to let the fire fly--just as it would be in any situation where heavy force is an option in real life. This also would secure the pistol type light firearms as being more practical in a close quarters urban environment as opposed to the heavy weapons which seem to be more for battlefield usage.

This would make sense also because it would help to differentiate between the different combat classes. All of the sudden you have people that do better inthe more intimate cantina settingand people that do better in a battlefield setting. Bounty hunter gets the best of both worlds, which would encourage more people to get more of the BH tree, and would be in the spirit of the game b/c it would celebrate their versatility on the battlefield.

It seems like this would make sense. You dont have to flame or nerf anyone's skills to do it, just change some of the rules with pvp.

comments?

Dubious... the heartwarming story about a young Bothan, determined to rise above a life of secrecy and paranoia and make something of himself in the Star Wars universe and how he rises to become a fence. Send him a /tell and he'll hook you up. ::lets keep it on the DL though::

Dubious, Smuggler 3-4-4-4 Pistoleer 1-1-1-3
Imperial Military Police
Naritus

This is a stupid post, lvl your character, expermient and then try..........of'course a freakin novice cant beat a BH. I'll take on any profession in the game, save for jedi and im only 3/4 pistoleer/Master smuggler.

I don't think it's a good idea. But not because you're a "whining pistol-user"

first, I don't think it's a very good idea to have "indoor fighting" rules. In general, fights aren't really supposed to happen indoors, and there's no precedent of other special indoor rules.

Second, tef'ing a group of people, including non-overt, non-grouped, non-factioned people... and on top of that causing damage to them, is just nuts, and would break everything.

the only thing i may think they should change is your movement speed.

bigger the gun slower you move

Actually your statement about being beat by Comandos and BH isnt true. Head over to the Commando forum and read Ivoni's post. He did some simple test one including a pistoleer that u might find interesting

warrens is indoor.....

and you should count caves as indoor too

i think indoor/outdoor etc mods are a good thing

maybe not huge mods like make pistols be 10% stronger indoor w no outdoor penalty

and make heavy arms -20% indoors with no outdoor penalty

but make rifles -10%indoors and +30% outdoors or something(rifle needing even more balancing than pistol)

either that or half heavy accuracy indoors and double rifles acuracy outdoors

-biana/berig

wanderhome

yeah i know i have a sig but i need to mod it lol

I got an idea to balance heavy weapons and pistols too.

1)Make pistol specials cap at 32 range. Cmon its a pistol not a rifle, why can it fire special attacks at 64 meters?

2)A cnace to get carpull tunnles from all the trigger pulls, this puts a -50 speed modifier and -50 accuracy modifieron your character for a week.

Sound stupid doesnt it? Leave the commandos alone, the cry babies have already screwed them. Next stop, riflemen forum..always lots of whiners there.

you do know that you can kite a guy with a flame thrower just as easy as you can kitea TK. i beat a master commando with a carbine. talk about a broken profession. and just yesterday my carbinier friend beat a master commando friend of ours 3 times in a row. dude just lay off all this balancing crap, make a strategy instead of just spamming your most powerful move. be smarter than him, not stronger.

first off, a TEF is a one way street. Im not saying cause damage to the innocent bystanders... im saying give them the option to shoot back at the shooter. I think it would be interesting. Second, what im saying isnt going to undermine anyone, it would just make their playing style in line with the types of weapons they use.

Dubious... the heartwarming story about a young Bothan, determined to rise above a life of secrecy and paranoia and make something of himself in the Star Wars universe and how he rises to become a fence. Send him a /tell and he'll hook you up. ::lets keep it on the DL though::

Dubious, Smuggler 3-4-4-4 Pistoleer 1-1-1-3
Imperial Military Police
Naritus

Oh and seph you want me to give you a cookie for beating a commando with a carbine or something? I bet you a nickel he didnt know what he was doing. My PvP attack goes something like this /lowblow, /panicshot, /lastditch.. or else low blow then straight to last ditch depending on what weapon im using. I've beat all kinds of people PvP. That wasnt the point of my post. The point was an ideaabout something that would change the way people used weapons, and differentiate different kinds of weapons by something besides their attacks and range modifiers.

Dubious... the heartwarming story about a young Bothan, determined to rise above a life of secrecy and paranoia and make something of himself in the Star Wars universe and how he rises to become a fence. Send him a /tell and he'll hook you up. ::lets keep it on the DL though::

Dubious, Smuggler 3-4-4-4 Pistoleer 1-1-1-3
Imperial Military Police
Naritus

man doob you are pretty stupid. commandos arent as good as you think, and by the way you talk i bet he could have killed your ass fast.

look at your title to tihs post: AN IDEA TO BALANCE PISTOLS AND HEAVY WEAPONS

thats just stupid why would you want a pistol to be as strong or stronger than a **edit**ING FLAMETHROWER OR ROCKETLAUNCHER?!

Seph--dude you dont get it just drop it. The main idea of the post was an idea to make some weapons better indoors and some better outdoors. You could have loved it. You could have hated it. But you were so busy looking at porn while you were skimming through the main post that you missed it. Its not about that line where i say commandos and bhs can beat pistoleers most of the time. I was kind of just running my mouth. Its about those two itemized entries under that. Stop spankin' it so much and get with the program.

I'm just trying to help you out, man.

Dubious... the heartwarming story about a young Bothan, determined to rise above a life of secrecy and paranoia and make something of himself in the Star Wars universe and how he rises to become a fence. Send him a /tell and he'll hook you up. ::lets keep it on the DL though::

Dubious, Smuggler 3-4-4-4
Imperial Military Police
Naritus

Seph, I agree with your sentiment, that small arms should not be equal to heavier weapons. But it's a game and the devs want everyone to play. So, sadly, the guy who insists on using a pointed stick in a space-age world gets to be just as powerful.