Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Calling all Pistoleers, yes, even you LURKERS! :)

Jaegen88
Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:47 am
#1

Visit and post:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=549984


I've resorted to posting our issues, at least the summary page and some helpful tips on testing, on the general discussion. I know you don't all read general discussion, I use to not either. Then we figured out that profession forums are for, well, sure as heck aren't read by developers/designers.


Please check it out and get some volume out there.


I mean, check it out and get some VOLUME on that thread!


The way I see it, I should not bother to pay attention to anything until what we've done is fixed, that is, what we've done over the past few months with no real responses. I get so frustrated every time I read the forums now, it just should not be this way. I spend half my in game time talking people into giving it a little longer, but I'm losing faith in that.Then I read good contributers on the forum quitting, because they are being ignored and are paying to play a broken game. Unfortunate, really, it is. It IS just a game, but it's a frustrating one to be sure.




Jagen88
Jaegen Kel'daron - Master Gunfighter
Dyriel
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:05 am
#2

Even depressed by Pistoleer, I can't leave the only Profession with a so good correspondant.

Going there for AoE Cold Humor...
Hawkstone
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:29 am
#3

Lurker here, and posted.


To all lurkers, help out the cause


Hawks - Flurry

Gameface25
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:10 am
#4

Posted. Up to 56 replies right now, not near enough to stand out. Lets make this post never leave the front page of the Dev forums! They will have to pay attention!




Kobe Starballer
Master Doctor ~ Swordsman
Valor
Tarquinas Legion

YetiIronfist
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:16 am
#5

Done, and vehemently so.
electricnomad
Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:14 am
#6

Smugglers resorted to this tactic last week.


See here:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=481644


Based on what happened as a result of that thread, I can tell you that this is a good tactic for Pistoleers. Holo emerged from hiding and finally hit the designers up for some answers, which he then shared with us.


See here:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=19879


However, just to let you know, it took five days and 1,010 posts on the thread to get a response.


Also, based on that campaign, I was temporarily banned from the SWG forums.


See here (from my PMs):







SWG message board warning


You are being warned for trolling. If you receive 2 more warnings, you will lose your message board account. With this warning comes a 4 hour suspension from the forums.

electricnomad
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Holocron wrote:

It isn't really that we have anything to hide. We spend a lot of time on the boards here talking to you, and I don't think we have been shy about confronting controversial issues, nor do I think we've ever been less than honest with you when things are going wrong. I don't think that anyone can claim that we've been hiding things from the customer base.

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Holo, you certainly seem to be hiding from Smugglers.

You "lose" our correspondent update, you ignore the fact that almost nothing in our profession works, and now you close a thread where we've been trying to get some answers?

You are definitely hiding. The following thread was up for five days before being shut down:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=481644&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

If you don't want to be called out for hiding, don't avoid the tough issues. This is one such issue.






As soon as I was banned (along with several others who had been clamoring for Smuggler information), Holo emerged and gave us the information we had been asking for. Of course, I wasn't able to see it until later. But at least we finally got the Devs' attention.


So I wish you the best of luck - partly because I'm a Pistoleer and i want this resolved, but also because Dev silence is hurting this game and we need to wake them up.


Good luck, and to arms!





"We're dedicating a designer (Green Marine) next week to looking into fixing some of the bigger issues of the smuggler. (Yes, we are also looking at issues with the other professions, the smuggler just seems to be the one needing the most love at this moment)." Q-3PO - September 16, 2003
Great Threads in Smuggler History, Vol. I / Vol. II / Vol. III - Collected Posts by the Devs Concerning Smugglers
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Philosopher1976
Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:30 am
#7

I agree with you 100%, electric. This is a VERY smart tactic by Jaegen. Holo only reads SWG Discussion, and if a thread gets a jillion responses and he gets a ton of PMs, eventually he reads it and you get some sort of response.


Yes, it's stupid that SOE works this way. But that's how it works, and we need to use the system just like the other professions.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


3brotherwilliam
Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:43 am
#8

I've been sending Holo and Q personal messages every other day for about 10 days now. I'm also including links to Jaegen's summary pages. This really may be ineffective, but it makes me fell better...






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Madrox
Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:44 am
#9

Actually Philo, Holo has said he HATES SWGiscussion and wish they didn't have it. He likes the profession boards a lot more because they are usually more civil(and they are), but for whatever reason he never GOES to them to check things out-unless a thread is forwarded by the mods.

Anyways, still posting my support as the mods are in Discussion more, and they're the ones that forward the threads.
jimm2k
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:20 pm
#10

sorry you had to resort to this man, but it had to be done. we need fixed.



Caleel Guns
Master Bounty Hunter
Master Pistoleer
Combat Medic 0004
Philosopher1976
Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:31 pm
#11

Good job jimm. Your posts helped get Holo over to Jaegen's thread, and kept Jaegen's thread bumped. Glad you were around to help.





Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


CornCake
Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:35 pm
#12

Thank you Jaegen. You are clearly a cut above all the other correspondants.


You are the only reason I've chosen to stick with the pistoleer profession to the bitter end.

Thaven
Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:38 pm
#13






CornCake wrote:

Thank you Jaegen. You are clearly a cut above all the other correspondants.


You are the only reason I've chosen to stick with the pistoleer profession to the bitter end.






Agreed.



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